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The web is not poor man’s native (2015)
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Re: The web is not poor man’s native (2015)
#12Progressive web apps suffer from an ergonomic issue where people have to read 2-3 tutorials to figure out how to put a site on their homescreen. If that hurdle vanished and was more intuitive and didn't require reading tutorials, PWAs would gain more traction. This is why people who are developing PWAs need to evangelize for better, more intuitive deployment of PWAs on popular mobile OSes like iOS and Android.
Either the user creates a bookmark on their home screen or the app asks with a popup if it should be added to the home screen.
How much simpler can we make this process?
Re: The web is not poor man’s native (2015)
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Re: The web is not poor man’s native (2015)
#14Progressive web apps suffer from an ergonomic issue where people have to read 2-3 tutorials to figure out how to put a site on their homescreen. If that hurdle vanished and was more intuitive and didn't require reading tutorials, PWAs would gain more traction. This is why people who are developing PWAs need to evangelize for better, more intuitive deployment of PWAs on popular mobile OSes like iOS and Android.
Progressive web apps suffer from an ergonomic issue where people have to read 2-3 tutorials to figure out how to put a site on their homescreen.
I strongly believe that the overwhelming majority of users don't want apps on their homescreen, whether they're PWA or native, unless they're things they use pretty much daily. They definitely don't want to install some crappy app for a business they use a few times a year. Most things should be plain old boring websites.
Re: The web is not poor man’s native (2015)
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Re: The web is not poor man’s native (2015)
#16Progressive web apps suffer from an ergonomic issue where people have to read 2-3 tutorials to figure out how to put a site on their homescreen. If that hurdle vanished and was more intuitive and didn't require reading tutorials, PWAs would gain more traction. This is why people who are developing PWAs need to evangelize for better, more intuitive deployment of PWAs on popular mobile OSes like iOS and Android.
Either the user creates a bookmark on their home screen or the app asks with a popup if it should be added to the home screen. How much simpler can we make this process?
I think they're referring to iOS specifically, which doesn't support the latter.
Re: The web is not poor man’s native (2015)
#17I’m writing MoneyHabitsHQ.com as a web-app, even though it has a lot of “native” competitors.
As a result, I’m very much looking forward to iOS adopting PWA notifications sometime next year. Once native notifications are in place, there will be much less of a divide between native and web.
That said, we definitely have a long way to go explaining to people that you can add a web app to your home screen. Right now, it’s technically possible to fire a notification to install a PWA, but the user expectation is under-developed.
Re: The web is not poor man’s native (2015)
#18The mobile web does need a rethink. Imo, 'responsive' designs can be a mess that dont fit well to either desktop or mobile. There are really 2 use cases: mobile portrait mode and everything else - screens are big enough now that it doesnt make sense to have a tablet version. Second, we need to start using built-in browser inputs instead of downloading megabytes of JS to render something like a datepicker . There are…
The native notification channels have a way of forcing good behavior, like AMP. As an end user, the more a rando company desires total control of my notifications, the more I want them confined to a walled garden.
Re: The web is not poor man’s native (2015)
#19Progressive web apps suffer from an ergonomic issue where people have to read 2-3 tutorials to figure out how to put a site on their homescreen. If that hurdle vanished and was more intuitive and didn't require reading tutorials, PWAs would gain more traction. This is why people who are developing PWAs need to evangelize for better, more intuitive deployment of PWAs on popular mobile OSes like iOS and Android.
Progressive web apps suffer from an ergonomic issue where people have to read 2-3 tutorials to figure out how to put a site on their homescreen. I strongly believe that the overwhelming majority of users don't want apps on their homescreen, whether they're PWA or native, unless they're things they use pretty much daily. They definitely don't want to install some crappy app for a business they use a few times a year.…
That’s basically what a PWA is, a boring website that continues to work properly on a terrible datalink. It’s not installed, just properly designed & cached.
Re: The web is not poor man’s native (2015)
#20This article is all over the place.
The debate is over. The web won. You can see that by the way popular websites will try and force you to install their apps. That’s because their web experience is perfectly competent to scratch the users itch. They are forced to artificially cripple their mobile web experience to drive app installs.
There is a strong niche left to native. I’m thinking of things like creative tools. Photo editors, development environments, etc. you don’t typically do these things on mobile though. Another sign the web is winning: This niche is slowly shrinking as well. The big software companies are building web versions of the most popular products like photoshop, office etc.