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Re: WeatherKit

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Post by lelandfe »

twicetwice wrote: post #6
junofan wrote: post #4

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Says there’s a REST API?

Oops, that's what I get for not reading closely enough! In my defense, my eyes glazed over after the fourth Apple-product-OS version number ;) but yes, my bad on that Looks like it's 500k calls per month per Apple Developer Program account, so essentially $99/yr. Not totally unreasonable pricing, although I wish I could buy it a la carte. It's a bit out of my price range for hobby projects. If I ever start developing…

https://developer.apple.com/weatherkit/get-started/

Here's the pricing for those that might need >500k/mo. It looks like it won't be available until after this hits beta, but it looks to be $50/mo extra for each 1m calls (plus the price of a membership).

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by ibeckermayer »

eproxus wrote: post #108
politelemon wrote: post #82

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> I have no doubt that Apple is looking at how data is leaking across the ecosystem and is seeking to stop it as much as possible. I have no doubt that Apple is looking to exploit it to their exclusive advantage as much as possible, while marketing it under the guise of their privacy measures.

Why not both? If privacy is another thing that sells, then it’s a win-win for them. Especially since no-one else seems to care about it.

The point is that they don’t actually care because they’re not offering true privacy. Real privacy means my data is mine, and I decide individually which people or groups get access, including Apple.

Apples’ “privacy” is that they retain monopoly control over my data. Basically they stiff arm the competition (Facebook, Google, Amazon, etc) and get to profit exclusively by spying on me.

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by teh64 »

harha wrote: post #106
teh64 wrote: post #101

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They law part is not true, according to the website they provide almost all of the German laws. The site is also linked from the ministry of justice itself, so it is definitely legit: https://www.bmj.de/DE/Service/GesetzeInternet/GesetzeInterne... They even have an RSS feed when laws are updated: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/aktuDienst.html (Funnily enough, they also say IE 6 does not support the RSS feed)

It’s legit but not complete, it’s not the official form (amtliche Fassung) and only the current laws, not the historic view. In Austria for instance RIS is much more complete: https://www.ris.bka.gv.at/ Edit: not directly related but a fun fact: in Switzerland you can get a copy of the constitutional laws for free at any bookstore and it’s supposed to be understandable for normal citizens and not only for lawyers.

Interesting, did not now about the amtliche Fassung. But the full archive with the amtliche Fassung is also published online for free, starting from 1949: https://www.bgbl.de/xaver/bgbl/start.xav

They also mention it on the gesetze-im-internet website: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/hinweise.html

It seems that the Austrian way is much better though.

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by ibeckermayer »

tinus_hn wrote: post #76
withinboredom wrote: post #67

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I've heard (2nd-level -- ie, people that talked to people in Apple, in confidence) rumors that they want to use the data themselves to sell more stuff. All under the guise of "privacy," it's the best marketing ploy ever... if true. I like what Apple is doing, but I've heard that rumor enough times from former employees who worked on this stuff, and people who've come out of meetings with the Safari guys, that I conti…

It’d be the dumbest marketing move ever, Apple makes billions from selling their devices and the rest of the ecosystem, the location data they could gather under the table would be worth small change compared to the risk they’d be taking. It’d be an embarrassment to emphasize their privacy advantage in their announcements only to throw away that trust in pursuit of a few pennies.

https://www.ft.com/content/5527ddd1-77a8-4cd0-82fd-4568be5da...

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by scatters »

lelandfe wrote: post #118
politelemon wrote: post #82

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> I have no doubt that Apple is looking at how data is leaking across the ecosystem and is seeking to stop it as much as possible. I have no doubt that Apple is looking to exploit it to their exclusive advantage as much as possible, while marketing it under the guise of their privacy measures.

I can happily tolerate low quality app store ads if it means my personal data isn't being sold

My attention is far more valuable to me than my privacy.

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by gspr »

xorcist wrote: post #117
gspr wrote: post #91

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Yr (Norwegian word meaning drizzle rain) is indeed truly excellent, but it should be noted that while its coverage is global, their forecasts outside of Europe are based on lower-accuracy models.

Do they actually do these forecasts themselves, aren't they cooperating with other meteorological agencies and sharing not only data but also forecasts?

My understanding is that those shared global models are of somewhat lower fidelity.

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by worldmerge »

hmottestad wrote: post #30
knadh wrote: post #20

The Norwegian Meteorological Institute has an excellent free HTTP/JSON weather API that covers the globe. No signup required. https://developer.yr.no

I've set up an iPad in my hallway to show their SVG weather charts. Super simple to integrate into a simple home made dashboard website. Here is Oslo: https://www.yr.no/en/content/1-72837/meteogram.svg

That's a great idea

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by [deleted] »

PostOnce wrote: post #58
knadh wrote: post #20

The Norwegian Meteorological Institute has an excellent free HTTP/JSON weather API that covers the globe. No signup required. https://developer.yr.no

New Zealanders pay taxes for a weather agency and a separate climate agency, neither of which provides weather local for most farms (one farm client of my agtech automation business is an hour from town; the weather report only applies to town). Additionally, the weather service is a "state owned enterprise" expected to turn a profit. So everyone who needs farm weather uses yr.no After covid, I'm going to go talk to…

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