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Re: WeatherKit

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Post by zikduruqe »

dzek69 wrote: post #59
dieselgate wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple api - nope. Norwegian Meteorological Institute api - yup. That’s mostly in jest though (sent from an iphone) but also because Apple bought darksky (which was my preferred weather api/source in the past) and I’d assume that’s a big part of/rolled into the weatherkit offerings now?

I loved dark sky, I'm using it for my own smart home app, but I should move away from it much earlier, because it just became so inaccurate I can no longer rely on it. I don't know if this is for my region only, or a country (Poland) or whatever, but if a forecast says it will rain for 7 days straight and there is no rain, but the rain falled immediately after forecast stopped showing any rain then it's worthless to…

Same here. I have a weather station at home that publishes out to the internet and have used Dark Sky's API for years to display some maps on it. Now I have to switch to something. I live OpenWeatherMap, but going to check out the Norwegian API now.

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by zikduruqe »

bredren wrote: post #19
annexrichmond wrote: post #8

I learned in a meeting at my last job that many weather apps solely exist to collect and sell location data. Don’t have specific evidence but it seemed to be par for the course. So I’m glad to see this API, hopefully it’ll help more privacy focused weather apps thrive.

Apple has continued to take on services third parties previously used to exploit the private information of Apple’s customers. This includes Apple Card, but also the recently introduced multi-week payment options Apple is offering to buy its products. (Previously offered by other services “for free.”) I have no doubt that Apple is looking at how data is leaking across the ecosystem and is seeking to stop it as much a…

>This includes Apple Card

Credit card companies have been doing this for decades.

Re: WeatherKit

#113

Post by roca »

PostOnce wrote: post #95
kmlx wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> After covid what do you mean? are there still restrictions in NZ?

Maskless face-to-face meetings are more effective than masked ones, in my opinion. Nevermind more effective than email or a phone call. I'd like to meet when I can have a frank discussion without a mask on so that we can gauge one another's sincerity and receptiveness to an idea.

Why can't you have a maskless face-to-face meeting? I'm having maskless face-to-face meetings in Auckland all the time.

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by dan1234 »

suction wrote: post #89

What data is Apple using in Central Europe? Because all weather apps only using data from US providers only are hilariously wrong.

Not sure for Central Europe, but for the UK, their app has logos for the Weather Channel, along with BreezoMeter for air quality info.

Doesn't feel as accurate as the Met Office's app, but not too bad (tends to over predict chance of rain).

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by PostOnce »

roca wrote: post #113
PostOnce wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maskless face-to-face meetings are more effective than masked ones, in my opinion. Nevermind more effective than email or a phone call. I'd like to meet when I can have a frank discussion without a mask on so that we can gauge one another's sincerity and receptiveness to an idea.

Why can't you have a maskless face-to-face meeting? I'm having maskless face-to-face meetings in Auckland all the time.

Well, my coworker's wife wound up in the hospital because he brought covid home, and I don't want mine to. I wear a mask, he never did. Case load hasn't dropped much yet.

Also, even if I didn't care, there's no guarantee any of the politicians will meet me maskless yet.

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by naiv »

ozaiworld wrote: post #110

Glad to see this released publicly! I used it internally last year, and it was frustrating but useful (mostly relating to not having access rights and quickly changing versions).

Can you share some experiences like response times etc? Did you use Swift or the Rest API?

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by xorcist »

gspr wrote: post #91
knadh wrote: post #20

The Norwegian Meteorological Institute has an excellent free HTTP/JSON weather API that covers the globe. No signup required. https://developer.yr.no

Yr (Norwegian word meaning drizzle rain) is indeed truly excellent, but it should be noted that while its coverage is global, their forecasts outside of Europe are based on lower-accuracy models.

Do they actually do these forecasts themselves, aren't they cooperating with other meteorological agencies and sharing not only data but also forecasts?

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by lelandfe »

politelemon wrote: post #82
bredren wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has continued to take on services third parties previously used to exploit the private information of Apple’s customers. This includes Apple Card, but also the recently introduced multi-week payment options Apple is offering to buy its products. (Previously offered by other services “for free.”) I have no doubt that Apple is looking at how data is leaking across the ecosystem and is seeking to stop it as much a…

> I have no doubt that Apple is looking at how data is leaking across the ecosystem and is seeking to stop it as much as possible. I have no doubt that Apple is looking to exploit it to their exclusive advantage as much as possible, while marketing it under the guise of their privacy measures.

I can happily tolerate low quality app store ads if it means my personal data isn't being sold

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by lelandfe »

dodgerdan wrote: post #72
twicetwice wrote: post #2

Looks like this is what they did with DarkSky after they acquired it. It looks awesome. It's a shame it's only available to Apple developers and users Edit: my bad for skimming too fast, I'm glad there's a REST API, that's unexpected and cool!

And idea why the Apple Weather app still has the “The Weather Channel” logo on it? I hope they continue to support Darksky, at least until the Apple Weather app is on par with it.

> I hope they continue to support Darksky

Some bad news: iOS app support ends at the end of this year, and the API/website gets yanked next March.

https://blog.darksky.net/

Re: WeatherKit

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Post by criddell »

beardface wrote: post #61
dieselgate wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple api - nope. Norwegian Meteorological Institute api - yup. That’s mostly in jest though (sent from an iphone) but also because Apple bought darksky (which was my preferred weather api/source in the past) and I’d assume that’s a big part of/rolled into the weatherkit offerings now?

I've been using Dark Sky for years but I uninstalled it yesterday. Since the acquisition, the native Weather app has been massively upgraded with a lot of Dark Sky's best features and is very good now. I ran the two in parallel for a few months to compare the alerts and accuracy. Weather won out.

I’m holding on a bit longer until Apple releases their app for the iPad. Until then, Dark Sky is probably still the best bet.
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