Unfortunately IE6 is still very popular in the corporate world of Europe. I'm currently running an internal websurvey for a large car rental company and looking at this weeks http logs shows that IE6 is still getting 61% :(
“But The Client Wants IE 6 Support”
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#22"We have a responsibility to ourselves and to the Web to follow the principle of universality." Not feeling that at all, so speak for yourself. If I want to target a specific browser or device, I do it when it makes sense. Screw universality. The users install what I tell them to or they don't get the privilege of using my site or product. (Do you think Steve Jobs would disagree?)
This attitude leads to fragmentation which causes more headache e.g. the web browser market.
Re: “But The Client Wants IE 6 Support”
#23Perhaps I am naive but this conversation seems easy to resolve with just a few words. Can anyone tell me how a client would respond to this: You can have a site with newer, nicer features, or you can have a site that supports older browsers. If you want both then you are commissioning two distinct websites. If you want usage statistics for old browsers I have them, and if you want to be economical I can produce the s…
To me that's lying to them.
While supporting IE6 is onerous extra work, it's still work that can be done and has little impact on the final product.
Take the other position, that 'Not supporting IE6 will mean I'll charge you 70% of my original quote, only x% of people use it in your target market' or better add it as an extra in the quote in the first place as the article suggests.
Then it's up to them, it's a risk assessment. But be up front in your quotes with it, not an after the quote is won 'I don't know how to do it!'.
The article's incredibly OTT on how much adding IE6 support costs, but I certainly would never go down the route of lying to a customer about it. If he charges double it's probably because he hates doing it and fair game to him.
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#24Let me preface this with saying I long for the day IE6 is completely irrelevant.
The fact is, when doing client work I have a responsibility to design the site in a way that when their customer visits they get the information they need. If the website is broken, for whatever reason, that looks badly on my client and on me.
When I do a site I code and design for modern browsers. However, I make sure even IE6 users can get the information they need or order products or whatever the case is with the website.
True, the IE6 users are small in number, however in some cases they can make up an older or important demographic to a client.
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#25Unfortunately IE6 is still very popular in the corporate world of Europe. I'm currently running an internal websurvey for a large car rental company and looking at this weeks http logs shows that IE6 is still getting 61% :(
my logs (for a file sharing solution for businesses in France) show 5.5% for IE6. Maybe because there are more early adopters at the moment? I for sure hope I won't need to spend hundreds of hours supporting IE6...
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#26I usually take a much different approach with this issue. I had to support IE 6 for years after anyone could reasonably have been asked to do that. I did it because our customers used it a lot and asking them to upgrade wasn't in the cards for us. We could have lost 30% of our business or just not do all the cool things we wanted to do. I realize it's not cool but we chose to just not do all those things. IE 6 does s…
IE7 only came out 5 years ago, IE8 2 years ago.
Making sure IE6 was supported was still commonplace even last year.
You're not as unique a snowflake as you think you are, we've all been having to do it. It's only becoming viable now to suggest otherwise.
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#27Unfortunately IE6 is still very popular in the corporate world of Europe. I'm currently running an internal websurvey for a large car rental company and looking at this weeks http logs shows that IE6 is still getting 61% :(
my logs (for a file sharing solution for businesses in France) show 5.5% for IE6. Maybe because there are more early adopters at the moment? I for sure hope I won't need to spend hundreds of hours supporting IE6...
hi Tommy! My guess is that most "IE6 only" corporations would not allow using a file-sharing site anyway :)
I still maintain one site which is around 70% IE6 (internal stuff in insurance). But one day it will change all at once, for political reasons :)
I'm not sure you will see more than what you currently see on the long run...
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#28Unfortunately IE6 is still very popular in the corporate world of Europe. I'm currently running an internal websurvey for a large car rental company and looking at this weeks http logs shows that IE6 is still getting 61% :(
Large car rental companies are not exactly cutting edge on IT. They tend to have a lot of small locations that's not exactly easy to start upgrading because of the cost of sending people out to do it all.
My local branches look like they had their last refurb in the late 90s for example.
One example does not a sample make.
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#29This seems like a relatively simple business proposition to a client. "X% of users on the internet today use IE6. I will be happy to provide pixel perfect support for Y dollars." Adjust Y up and down based on your ability and desire to continue to support web applications that use IE6.
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#30Somehow I had managed to completely miss the term "polyfill" until just now.
Handy!