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Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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I don’t usually post, but I wanted to weigh in. We don’t usually know quickly if it’s going to work out with someone. If you can get that many dates, then you are attractive so don’t worry about that. And guys are attracted to you so don’t worry about that. Coffee is a perfect first date, and waiting until you are comfortable with a guy before intimacy is also fine - just don’t let the guy feel like you are using the…

I like this advice a lot and how you write. It’s very kind. Thanks so much for the encouragement and taking the time to weigh in even though you don’t usually post. I appreciate it.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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Stop being so picky and realize no one (and by extension, everyone) is perfect. No one person is going to fulfill all of your romantic and relationship needs, and that's ok.

I’m actually really open to giving people a second chance and getting to know them. When I have a reason that someone is not a fit I sanity check it with my friend. Im not the kind of person who dismisses agit for superficial reasons like lack of a college degree, socially awkward, height or slightly overweight. I try to be compassionate and see the good in people. I’ve endured a lot of negative treatment from men an…

I don't even know where to start with that reply.

"...second chance..." You're keeping a tally?

".. I sanity check it with my friend." You have the capability of discernment on your own, and you should engage with owning your own power and capabilities. Going to a friend is you trying to export the potential guilt/shame/pain/whatever-negative-feeling-you're-avoiding out to a 3rd party as a safety valve so you don't have to deal with it when the (surprise!) inevitable happens because there are now no consequences for your actions.

"I'm not the kind of person..." Whatever was in the rest of that sentence, you should try to be that kind of person for a while. To get some perspective.

"I try to be compassionate and see the good in people." Oh this is a giant red flag. If you feel compelled to wave this banner around (especially in public), as though other people 'are not' this, it is because you likely have a crushing amount of guilt from being judgmental about others.

"I've endured a lot of negative treatment from men" You mean like they beat and rape you, or they call you names and yell at you? There is a chasm of difference between these two things. If you're summoning assholes from the first group, god help you. I hope you can find a mentor that can restore your confidence and you can come to know that you intrinsically have worth that is outside of whatever horribleness you are encountering in the world. If you attract men who are verbally/psychologically abusive, then I would suppose there is a reason you are attracting those kind of men. Maybe you are a negative, spoiled, titty baby who constantly plays the victim card and incessantly puts the blame for your situation on others because you're afraid of responsibility. Maybe you've lost (or were never taught) the value of having gratitude, even (and especially) during trouble.

Your expectations of people are worthless, no, worse, they are actively destructive to your relationships. Any expectations of people are that. Assume all responsibility, even for others, yourself, or continue driving in circles.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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"I’ve dated every profession you can think of from doctors to electricians and unemployed guys."

That's a lot of guys. Can you shed some light on why all those failed?

"My time for having children is running out."

Realistically, time was running out in your early 30s (where female fertility starts to nose dive). After 40 and you are seriously rolling the dice (assuming the ovum even gets fertilized, there Downs, aneuploidy, etc.)

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#364

I am a man who dated many women casually via online dating, until I decided to settle down (wrote about this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31021578 ), so I think I can bring a somewhat relevant perspective. Based on my experience, dating is absolutely a market driven by a typical economy of supply and demand, and the supply of "good enough" men who want to settle down with a woman is virtually unlimited…

Thanks for sharing your article ! Looking forward to reading it! And thank you even more for taking the time to share your advice with me. Your time is precious and the fact you’d take time for me who you don’t even know means a lot. So…. With regards to your first point, I am definitely a weirdo and proud of it! One of my favorite teachers says, “weird is wonderful !” Who else but a bonafide weirdo would post such a…

i had a list of criteria, it wasn't a high priority list but more ideas of what i expected from a relationship. but, most of the things that turned out to be a challenge later were not on that list. now with that experience i could build a better list, but no-one has that experience before their first marriage. so this is difficult.

the only way out that i see is that both partners recognize the challenge and find the opportunity to work through these questions together, which btw is already a good way to work out if you can cooperate.

being able to cooperate, for me is now the most important quality in my relationship. if we can work together on reaching each others goals, we can solve the problems that get in the way.

ironically that is the same quality that's most important in the relationship of company founders.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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Throwaway, because I'm going to say things that may not be all that kosher, but you asked for honest feedback, so here. Additionally, you're asking some very nerdy nerds this advice on a Saturday of a long weekend. The population sample here is biased as hell. Also, lets face it, men are pigs. And without a picture of you, we're all just guessing as to real reasons why. And, no, that doesn't mean I want a pic of you,…

Thank you for your kind and encouraging post! I’d be curious to hear from men here if they identify with this and feel un attracted to a woman providing for herself. Many thanks again for your thoughts and being positive and affirming .

> I’d be curious to hear from men here if they identify with this and feel un attracted to a woman providing for herself.

No, I don’t identify in the slightest. The opposite is true. I find interest in someone who can be a partner in the true sense of the word. We should strive to improve each other and remain together by choice, because we’re happy, not because one of us has a small ego and the other is incapable of being independent. What a boring scenario.

That said, I don’t doubt it does happen. A friend has told me of a man she dated who couldn’t get over the fact she earned more than him. Unsurprisingly, they didn’t last. She’s much happier now, in a healthy relationship.

Is finding someone so important that you’d consider presenting as someone you are not? Sounds like a recipe to attract a partner you’d regret choosing.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#366

I am a man who dated many women casually via online dating, until I decided to settle down (wrote about this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31021578 ), so I think I can bring a somewhat relevant perspective. Based on my experience, dating is absolutely a market driven by a typical economy of supply and demand, and the supply of "good enough" men who want to settle down with a woman is virtually unlimited…

immediately stating that you are looking to have kids since your time is "running out" would be a red flag

i disagree. that is something that i would want to know up front. yes, it may put off some people. but if the person is put off by that they are not likely to be a good candidate anyways in my eyes.

if you really want kids, then time is running out, and both need to be aware of that. i'd consider not stating that up front but bringing it up later an unfair bait-and-switch. if both are not on board with taking this biological limitation into account, then that's not going to work.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So he complimented you, and you twisted it such that he implied you're a whore instead? Interesting.

Oh ok. No, I didn’t think he was implying I was a whore. That’s what you read into it. I took odds with the language implying that I was a piece of property to be “taken.” But I was very gracious. Don’t worry. Good thoughts !

I'm not comment OP, but you literally said "I was like, um, I’m not sure I knew I was for SALE?"

A women for sale is pretty much a whore, so it doesn't seem they read into rather than taking you literally.

But even regardless, the fact that you took his word 'taken' in a literal sense rather than the compliment it was intended as, and here your defending it again rather than reflecting.

If your crossing off guys because they compliment you with common colloquial phrases that you take literally and negatively, well, you will indeed have a short list of suiters.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So he complimented you, and you twisted it such that he implied you're a whore instead? Interesting.

Oh ok. No, I didn’t think he was implying I was a whore. That’s what you read into it. I took odds with the language implying that I was a piece of property to be “taken.” But I was very gracious. Don’t worry. Good thoughts !

Ok, don't take this wrong. I'm rooting for you. But there's the red flag.

He said something that's a common expression, "taken", which is used for both men and women. It was clearly intended to be a compliment.

You chose an unlikely interpretation that clearly didn't match intent or common usage and decided to get offended about it.

After all your self description, I was wondering "how is she single?"

Right there, now I understand. I'd be out the door. Someone that is looking HARD for ways to be offended is not relationship material.

Think about your need to assign your meanings to other people's words. Maybe talk to a professional. This one thing can sink you.

Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#369

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This is not a good advice. You got lucky despite not looking - recognise that. A slightly better version is "make sure you're open to opportunities outside of explicit dating context".

All my best/favorite relationships came when explicitly not looking for anything. If it sounds counter-intuitive, it really is. Kinda like turning right on a motorcycle to go left. There’s no harm in trying it for a couple of months, in the worst case, you don’t meet anyone. But “bad advice?” That’s pushing it.

Not bad because it's untrue, but because it's just incidental to something more specific. For example concentrating on your hobbies and getting to know people that way, or finding some new group activity, or spending more time with friends and converting one, or just being in places you enjoy rather than spending time on internet dating is a specific thing to do that works for finding someone compatible. But if you only stop looking, that's not going to work - that's the cause/effect swapped.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

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post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh ok. No, I didn’t think he was implying I was a whore. That’s what you read into it. I took odds with the language implying that I was a piece of property to be “taken.” But I was very gracious. Don’t worry. Good thoughts !

Ok, don't take this wrong. I'm rooting for you. But there's the red flag. He said something that's a common expression, "taken", which is used for both men and women. It was clearly intended to be a compliment. You chose an unlikely interpretation that clearly didn't match intent or common usage and decided to get offended about it. After all your self description, I was wondering "how is she single?" Right there, no…

I was thinking the same thing.
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