I had an issue with RAW decoding when the dji mini 2 came out. Dec's were extremely responsive and helpful, and the software is free and extremely powerful to boot.
Darktable 4.0
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The color science is missed up in Darktable […], I just couldn't get something decent out. If you want help you need to explain what you did or tried. Did you work in display referred or scene referred? I can recommend submitting one of your raw files to a Play Raw[0]. People will edit your raw file and send back an .xmp file with the edit metadata so that you can see what they did. [0] https://discuss.pixls.us/c/p…
Took a quick look at some posts there and this stood out: https://discuss.pixls.us/t/extreme-highlight-recovery-in-dar... In my opinion, the Lightroom edit in the OP is the best. Many of the replies with Darktable edits look extremely bad. Some have extreme color artifacts.
Highlight reconstruction was a major and well-known shortcoming in versions they were using. Better highlight reconstruction for large blown-out areas was finally added in darktable 4.0.
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#43Thank you people for your amazing work. I use Darktable all the time. It is very good editor.
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#44I love DarkTable, it's an amazingly powerful tool, but for 99% of people the terms they use to describe editing are entirely alien. I take photos on my X100F for fun, want to do little edits here and there and filmic rgb etc. are completely foreign concepts. I'd like to see far more work on the UX. I can imagine a scenario where you load it for the first time and you're presented with a choice for beginner or advance…
The alien terms are actually familiar to videographers, colorists, and people who understand color theory in general. For some reason I don't understand, video folks have always had much better tools for handling color, dynamic ranges etc, and also the much saner pipeline than photographers.
Sure, but that doesn't mean the UX is good. "This is meaningful to videographers and colorists" is a not a great defense of UX for an app that is targeted towards photographers, not videographers or colorists.
Lightroom and Capture One (and heck, even Affinity Photo), make common photography tasks like highlight recovery easily accessed with a single slider. Sure, the Darktable UI may be "meaningful to colorists", but that doesn't necessarily result in a good UX for the main people that are likely to want to use it.
Re: Darktable 4.0
#45Really glad there's advanced open-source tools like darktable and RawTherapee. I've switched back and forth between RawTherapee and darktable for a few years now. I prefer the UI and workflow or RT, but dt has better performance on my machine. And RT has this strange longstanding bug where the image is extremely blurry during editing, and only becomes clear after exporting. According to a github issue, a workaround i…
I wish the effort is united between dt and rt (and maybe digiKam for management), then we'd have a Blender-level competitor against LightRoom maybe
A merger between digiKam and darktable would be my dream.
Re: Darktable 4.0
#46Really glad there's advanced open-source tools like darktable and RawTherapee. I've switched back and forth between RawTherapee and darktable for a few years now. I prefer the UI and workflow or RT, but dt has better performance on my machine. And RT has this strange longstanding bug where the image is extremely blurry during editing, and only becomes clear after exporting. According to a github issue, a workaround i…
Darktable is great! This year I restarted photography, ina serious manner, after quite some time. Serious as in I try to get beautiful pictures I could hang on a wall. I also started to do proper post processing, and darktable is quite handy. My dad used to be a pro photographer, now retired, and gave me crash course in RAW processing. Besides some handling differences between lightroom and photoshop he nothing negat…
Does your dad have any suggestion on resources/books that others can use to learn the same crash course he gave you? :)
Re: Darktable 4.0
#47I love DarkTable, it's an amazingly powerful tool, but for 99% of people the terms they use to describe editing are entirely alien. I take photos on my X100F for fun, want to do little edits here and there and filmic rgb etc. are completely foreign concepts. I'd like to see far more work on the UX. I can imagine a scenario where you load it for the first time and you're presented with a choice for beginner or advance…
The alien terms are actually familiar to videographers, colorists, and people who understand color theory in general. For some reason I don't understand, video folks have always had much better tools for handling color, dynamic ranges etc, and also the much saner pipeline than photographers.
> For some reason I don't understand, video folks have always had much better tools for handling color, dynamic ranges etc,
I suspect this is because photos usually stand on their own. You edit a photo to something that pleases you and that is it.
With video, you have multiple pieces of footage recorded at different times, in different circumstances and locations that need to match in their look to make a video feel like a consistent whole. Getting the color right is much more critical for video.
Re: Darktable 4.0
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
The alien terms are actually familiar to videographers, colorists, and people who understand color theory in general. For some reason I don't understand, video folks have always had much better tools for handling color, dynamic ranges etc, and also the much saner pipeline than photographers.
Sure, but that doesn't mean the UX is good. "This is meaningful to videographers and colorists" is a not a great defense of UX for an app that is targeted towards photographers , not videographers or colorists. Lightroom and Capture One (and heck, even Affinity Photo), make common photography tasks like highlight recovery easily accessed with a single slider. Sure, the Darktable UI may be "meaningful to colorists", b…
I think UX and terminology are two different points actually - I agree UI/UX can be clunky overall.
> "This is meaningful to videographers and colorists" is a not a great defense of UX for an app that is targeted towards photographers, not videographers or colorists.
I think you underestimate the amount of photographers who know the fundamentals, as well as those who are familiar with related fields. After getting better in painting, I now resent tools like Lightroom which obscure everything behind some magic. I almost always see what I want from the photo, and I need a specific result. Photography tools are generally inconsistent, and most are light years behind video tools in getting predictable results. I want pastel colors in Lightroom and I know exactly what makes them; it's a single operation. Yet in Lightroom and Photoshop it needs multiple tweaks which feel like a workaround. The saturation in photo software can mean arbitrary things except being an actual axis in the color space. It can use several intermediate curves without telling you, making you fiddle with the sliders yet still not get the result you want. And so on. I mean, I tried Luminar AI recently, and it has a slider called Punch; what the hell does it do exactly?!
There's a reason people are using things like Firegrade for Photoshop. Software like RT/ART and Darktable also does what it says on the tin and nothing more, this is a niche they fill, and I'm glad they exist. (although I'll admit RT still looks like an explosion of sliders to me, despite the fact I know what they are for)
Re: Darktable 4.0
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I'm also glad it exists but have never figured out how to use it on MacOS Same here. I just downloaded V4 to see if there was any improvement from last time I tried to use it * Open app, Select 'Add to Library' --> spinning beachball of doom delete the ~/.config/darktable directory, to give me a clean start... * Open app. App opens in a weird window the full width of my screen but only half the depth. I try to resiz…
It's Linux software. Support for other operating systems is an afterthought. You guys have to deal with Adobe, or use a less advanced alternative.
For RAW editing DXO is great and runs native on Apple silicon. Recently bought ON1 and Affinity photos as well so there are other alternatives to Adobe, at least in the processing stage of RAW development.
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#50I gave Darktable a try (never used Lightroom), and as an amateur, it is still kind of hard for me to achieve something better than the "out of camera" JPGs when post-processing RAW photos from my rather old Canon DSLR camera. I don't want to do elaborate stuff like working with masks / applying filters to sections of the photo only. Only thing I usually do is increase saturation, and, rarely, brightness/aperture. Sat…
I occasionally try to come back to DarkTable, RawTherapee etc, but similarly for my requirements they feel like overkill, and require much more time than I have to properly understand the underlying theories.
For a simpler interface that gets me (a naive user) half-way decent results pretty quickly, I'll drop back to LightZone. Whole bunch of ready-made presets that combine primitives (sharpness, contrast, saturation, curves etc), and easy to save new presets once you find a combination you like.