Live data from Hacker News

Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

news.ycombinator.com

111–120 of 741 posts

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#111
Dating is only one way to find someone, it's definitely not the only way.

I'm not American and nobody I know in a committed relationship, not a single one (even the Americans I know), met their partner through dating (where I'm defining "dating" as meeting with strangers or near-strangers with the intent of evaluating a possible romantic connection).

For the most part, my own relationship and the relationships around me started as friendships. People encounter others organically, through some hobby, club, group, event with a mutual friend or something like that. They talk a bit, they (platonically) like each other, they (platonically) hang out just because they enjoy each other's company.

Only after properly getting to know each other (think years, not weeks or months) is romance considered.

So I'd suggest that instead of going broad but incredibly shallow with over a hundred meetings with strangers, try going narrow but deep. Try to make a few male friends that you know and feel comfortable with and see if you find yourself wanting more from any of them.

Even if you don't find romance from any of them, you end up with more friends. They likely have friends of their own that you can also befriend and the cycle continues.

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the time with the online dates, I felt one out of ten was somewhat attractive, so I’d give them a chance and get interested then the guys immediately lost interest and ghosted me after things got physically intimate. I think they just wanted sex and I wanted to wait to get to know them better.

To me it sounds like you're going through the moves to find the right guy, but you don't actually take the ideas and self-reflection parts to heart. Some questions: Why do you want kids? (There are basically two answers, either it is because you have something to give or because you want something. I guess you can figure out which mindset is healthier.) Are you actually interested in the people around you? Not only m…

Actually, I've done an extensive amount of intensive self-reflection, I would definitely wager more than most people.... Did you see where I mentioned therapy, dating coaches, support groups, meditation and hypnosis ?

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#113

It seems you are trying too hard and also "selling the farm" in the process.

I feel like going on dates and being pro-active about reading etc is better than sitting alone in my house pining for a boyfriend, which I did for about 5-7 years. No?

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#114

Do let me know if you find a decent place in Austin to meet new folk, I'm also trying to do similar and just moved also (from Chicago/UK)

Nice to meet you! Feel free to reach out if you want to be friends. manisha[at]manisharose[dot]com

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#115
> Over the last two years I’ve been on over 120 dates with men I’ve met online - a few I met in person - in 3 different cities .

What was wrong with them? What common patterns (if any stand out)? If this were a StackOverflow question about reading a file from Node.js, it would be customary to at least enumerate the output you saw after the failed attempts.

But that's not here, which (a) is interesting and possibly important; and (b) makes it hard to say much constructive.

Is it possible that you want the family more than you want the husband? Or that you like the idea of a husband but not any specific husband you could marry?

> ... I was raised by a single mom and I really want to have kids with a man I love, not do it on my own.

Stay true to that and don't let your despair drive you to something you (and a future child) might regret. You have a perspective on this that only the child of a single parent can understand.

Kids raised by single parents have various ways to cope, and one of them is to become unusually independent. Maybe that has something to do with why there was no mention about what specifically was wrong with the men you dated unsuccessfully. Maybe you're, in fact, fine on your own. It's just that you want a child but being a single parent is a no-go.

So here's a hack. Write yourself a letter about all the dates you've been on and what's stopped you from moving forward with each man you've dated. Be extremely specific. Anything from excessive nose hair to anger issues would be fair game.

Then, categorize your dates. Group them according to biggest flaws. Maybe come up with some kind of classification system like "Selfish" or "Doesn't Want Kids."

After collecting the data and categorizing it, what stands out?

Edit: later on in the thread you note:

> I found about 1 in ten attractive and then they ghosted me after a few dates

Here are some ideas to follow up on that:

1. What was unattractive about them? If it was physical, for example, then an online approach is bound to lead to slim pickings and frustration. Be honest with yourself and if physical attraction is crucial, ask for a picture or stop meeting guys online. Whatever the case, 1/10 sounds kind of low.

2. Are you saying that the 1/10 you found attractive then proceeded to ghost you after a few dates? In other words, there has not been a single case in which you called things off after a man makes it past the first cut?

Re: Ask HN: I’m 41 and still unmarried – what should I do?

#116

What has led those 120 potential partners to not work out? From what you’ve described here, you’re quite the catch. Is it that belief that is leading you to have too high of standards for your mate?

I think it’s quite possible or I don’t know what to look for. I didn’t have a dad so it’s hard for me to know what I like and don’t like. That said, there are many men I’ve found attractive when the timing wasn’t right so I don’t know that I’m too picky either. Hard to say. I wish I was more discerning in seeing who is a good man who could be a good partner for me

Frankly it sounds like you are saying you left men in the past for "amorphous career-related" reasons but find yourself working at a risk-laden startup moving cities out of alleged insecurity with your social and romantic circumstance at the age of 41 with no kids, raising the woe-is-me flag on an internet forum. Just calling a spade a spade here.

Don't underestimate the commitment of kids. Prospective partners know they are a forever commitment that will stress and strain even a well established relationship. They will eat time, motivation, career, and sanity for breakfast, then demand entertainment, transport a packed lunch. To be good parents you have to give up a lot and you never get it back. Splitting up and spitting the dummy isn't going to change that like it could solve arguments the past. In the event of success in your search, given you will thus be emotionally, practically and socially completely redefined as a person by having kids anyway, why not kiss your current self goodbye and release your expectations before beginning the search?

Here it is: Back-burner your career up front.

Ask yourself what more are you looking for in your career? Are you willing to 100% ditch it for a few years starting tomorrow for Mr. Squintrite™ to have kids or are you expecting him to take up the slack for you while you go on a hormonal journey of aggressive self-redefinition with disrupted sleep and emotional conflict guaranteed, cynically to avoid timeout on a me-too life check box now that it suits you? If it's a mix, consider how it may adjust perception in a mate. Any other expectations to unpack? Houses, cars, rings, income? Any pet baggage or toxic girlfriends in there? Debt, expensive spending or bad habits? Don't beat yourself up about it, just understand what might be a red flag for others. Having parents or family around helps with the strain of kids. You mentioned moving about. Is your mum around to help? Are you willing to move to be close to a partner's extended family?

After putting work on the backburner, try something abnormal (eg. take up a new interest, preferably including week+ periods away in places with great climates), and then see who you meet. They might be more compatible than the set you're meeting otherwise. If in 2-3 years it still doesn't happen, go back to work and embrace being kidless.

Post reply on HN