Off topic but while all the RSS people are here - does anyone know of a client or feed that can extract articles from websites that try to stop you from using RSS? Bikepacking.com is an example of this.
Goodbye, Feedly
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Re: Goodbye, Feedly
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
> is that really so bad? In case of Feedly, yes. I feel like a hamster being tried to be converted. Feedly's free tier doesn't feel like free. It feels like a getaway drug which tries to make you pay for other features. I have used for a week, then SDF announced availability of their TTRSS instance. As a paying member, I moved there. I am much more happier now. TTRSS is free and open source. I'm just supporting SDF s…
Your sentiment is frustrating to read as a software engineer.either do it yourself or accept that those people also want to have a great job, good salary etc. And as stated on another comment: no it's not that bad. I use it free since Google shut down theirs
Your sentiment is also frustrating to read as a software engineer. As I stated before, I pay for a lot of services, and pay for their highest tier plans because I feel that they deserve my money.
However, Feedly feels like they want my money first instead of giving me more or better service, and I don’t feel like they deserve my money, so I don’t pay them.
Re: Goodbye, Feedly
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
I probably didn't express myself sufficiently clearly. I'm pleased that the author has moved from a Web app to local, open source apps. Definitely a good move, particularly on mobile. What I don't get is going to the effort of writing a blog post about the annoyance of using the free tier of a service provided by a commercial business. That tier is there to let people try the service. It's not surprising that the exp…
> It's not surprising that the experience isn't friction-free: it's not meant to be. This is an argument for the intentional creation of bad software.
Or for not having free tiers.
Re: Goodbye, Feedly
#144I’ve been very happy with https://feedbin.com It’s a paid RSS syncing service and web app too, costs $5 per month, I use it with Reeder (and NetNewsWire etc). It doesn’t have any social cruft or AI assistants or ML companions. I was also a Feedly user when I decided to try Feedbin, and I immediately noticed how much faster fetching the feeds was on Feedbin. I also like to have my email newsletters in same place (forw…
Feedbin is pretty great. I was particularly glad it was paid, early on, because that made it more likely to actually stay around.
Re: Goodbye, Feedly
#145Going through the article I realized this attitude is what eventually kills some really good software. If a software does what you expect it to do and does it well but includes a few prompts here and there for marketing purposes...is that really so bad? Live and let live, I say. Not everyone is running a charity and Feedly is nowhere even near the top of the list of software ripping off their users or selling their d…
When I read threads like these I feel I must be terribly unsophisticated/"un"-picky compared to the average HN users. I have been using Feedly since when Google Reader went down, and I follow ~100 feeds (including HN! I never browse articles through the front page, I let articles with enough upvotes like this come to me via Feedly) in 5-10 reading sessions a day from browser and iOS apps, so I'd say I'm a very active user.
I am on the free tier and nothing ever bothers me, it continues being a wonderful service every day. The ads are fine, I totally understand it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The same is largely true of free products from which I get massive value but HN constantly complains about: Google Search, Reddit, ...
Re: Goodbye, Feedly
#146To contrast other opinions – I think it's a valuable feedback for the company.
I also stopped using Feedly when realized that it has become something else than "nice minimalistic rss-reader". I settled with NetNewsWire and super happy with it, really incredible piece of software. I wouldn't mind paying some bucks per month for extra features like proxying sites-without-rss or similar stuff (I need to use third-party solutions to add some important sites to rss reader).
So if Feedly wants to build a business around RSS (I couldn't find their vision on the website, so it's a guess), then maybe they just need to listen to those who actually use RSS. I think most of us love RSS for its simplicity, for decentralized nature, for respect to our attention and non-invasiveness into our information consuming patterns. Not much of a business proposition here maybe, but business should be built on top of the real value for users, not the other way around.
Re: Goodbye, Feedly
#147Going through the article I realized this attitude is what eventually kills some really good software. If a software does what you expect it to do and does it well but includes a few prompts here and there for marketing purposes...is that really so bad? Live and let live, I say. Not everyone is running a charity and Feedly is nowhere even near the top of the list of software ripping off their users or selling their d…
The author makes sense to me, and I think it is justified. Any extra prompts beyond what I expect the software to do for my purposes is extra cognitive load -- inputs which I have to deal with using my very limited senses and processing abilities. At some point, it becomes more trouble than it's worth, and that's when I quit and move on.
It's one of the reasons I no longer acknowledge or interact with cookie prompts, newsletter dialogs, notifications, or anything else interferes with my use of a Web page. If anything at all like that happens, I just close the page and move on. (Sometimes I just ignore the cookie prompts and read around them.)
As a long-term strategy, this has paid off by not only saving me time and grief, but also made me realize that poorly designed usability correlates strongly with poor quality content, which I also save time by avoiding.
I think you are speaking from a point of view of having cognitive ability to spare, as opposed to struggling to keep up with cognitive load which is too much to handle.
Re: Goodbye, Feedly
#148I use free Feedly multiple times a day, since the demise of Reader. I'm scanning the comments for another free alternative that doesn't suck, but so far I haven't found one.
The prompts for "give us money" are infrequent enough that they don't bother me, much. What do you want for nothing, a rrrrrrrubber biscuit? [1]
Re: Goodbye, Feedly
#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess it's a matter of opinion because Feedly's interface looks cluttered to me. It's not a bad offender for a webapp but compared to other feed readers its interface is IMO busy. Also a matter of opinion but app developers IMO shouldn't use their apps to market. I've already got an email app and a Feed reader. If I want to keep up with you I'll subscribe to your mailing list or follow your feed. I disable auto-upd…
Tangential: if updates bother you, you might want to give NetGuard a try (not affiliated). FOSS, though the pro version license costs $5 iirc. It is a great way to make apps behave nicely - even Firefox is too chatty (telemetry & co.) for my taste. Since updates are often from a different domain, you can just block them. How it works is that all the traffic on the phone is routed through a local (just an app on your…
I use a similiar app on my Mac. It helps me catch poorly behaving apps so I can remove them.
Re: Goodbye, Feedly
#150I use free Feedly multiple times a day, since the demise of Reader. I'm scanning the comments for another free alternative that doesn't suck, but so far I haven't found one. The prompts for "give us money" are infrequent enough that they don't bother me, much. What do you want for nothing, a rrrrrrrubber biscuit? [1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYyBZE0kBtE
I've got a couple recommendations. I currently use Net News Wire and News Explorer on the Mac. News Explorer has excelent YouTube integration. If you're into web apps Feedbin is IMO well worth the price.