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Re: Ask HN: If you’ve considered homeschooling, what’s stopping you?

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Post by cryptonector »

somethoughts wrote: post #69

I'd welcome more tools to enable home after -schooling and home summer schooling. A lot of the after school/summer school in person offerings are pretty expensive and usually pretty sports centric. Full home schooling I feel could easily burn out even the most hard working parent - as there's little time for getting groceries, etc. done. And lack of socialization in the childs cohort is an issue. I think more online…

You are the tool. And there is sooo much content on the various video platforms. Teach them well.

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Post by [deleted] »

idle_zealot wrote: post #311
zdragnar wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That comment blatantly implies that secularl and liberal ideas are incompatible with valuing tradition, morality and spirituality. It makes unquantified assumptions about how the person was raised and their life experiences. There's nothing charitable about it at all.

> blatantly implies that secularl and liberal ideas are incompatible with valuing tradition, morality and spirituality Yes, that is what I was implying. Now I will state it more explicitly: those values are each at odds with either secularism or liberalism. > unquantified assumptions about how the person was raised I'm not entirely sure what an unquantified assumption is, but I clearly qualified that I was making a g…

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Post by andresgaitan »

aszantu wrote: post #155
andresgaitan wrote: post #139

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I went to normal school and university, and despite this I still feel socially ackward. I always blamed my dad, and my raising for my problems. My problems started being solved when I forgave my dad, and all the people that hurt me in the past. I had to take responsibility and stop blaming others for my problems. For homeschooled people I believe it is very tempting to blame homeschooling for their problems. It is to…

what's your process for forgiving someone?

It was long ago so I don't remember the details, it was part of Church process.

I recommended the following: 1. Understand that you are a sinner and that you wrong people very bad. In other words, recognize that you need forgiveness yourself. 2. Recognize that the other person is sinful as well. 3. Re-live the moment and recognize that it hurts. 4. Realize that the other person fucked up really bad. Don't apologize for them. 5. Forgive them. Thinking that if you don't, the problem will hunt you (not the other person).

Repeat this process several times during several years and you will be able to do it.

Re: Ask HN: If you’ve considered homeschooling, what’s stopping you?

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Post by anon291 »

xpe wrote: post #313
anon291 wrote: post #265

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But that's my point... I went to a normal school. Even though it was religious, I wasn't exposed to any conservative ideas (religious != political conservatism). The school kinda went along with the general zeitgeist. Perhaps your experience is different. We did a cursory (and I mean extremely cursory) view of all world religions, as I think many schools may offer, but we never went in depth. But again, religion is n…

>> Personally I can say that I've learned a much greater depth about religion and spirituality outside of formal religious contacts. > That's not really germaine. Did you learn it in a public school? Because if not, I think my point stands. I took classes in history, philosophy, and ethics at a public university (one with considerable public funding). My public high school, on the other hand, had very limited capabil…

Universities are different. No one here is suggesting 'homeschooling' university (whatever that means)

Re: Ask HN: If you’ve considered homeschooling, what’s stopping you?

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Post by anon291 »

jackson1442 wrote: post #290
wyager wrote: post #273

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> Perhaps something about the organizational setup of religious-based and funded programs American public schools are a religious-based and funded program; you just don't notice it because you don't even know what your own religion is.

Would you like to provide any evidence or supplementary information to support your claim?

The major purpose of establishing public schools was to fight the parochial system brought over by Irish and Italian immigrants. Perhaps that's what he's talking about?

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Post by pyuser583 »

hgomersall wrote: post #179
ElijahLynn wrote: post #108

Social needs. Children need to learn how to be in relationship with others, it is the most fundamental need we have and is so important for the future of our planet. If I were to homeschool, it isn't about the learning, that is easy, it is about providing an environment where children can learn to co-exist with others. That can still be done with homeschool, but it will need to be intentional with daily activities th…

This so much. I've met quite a few homeschooled children and almost without fail they lack some pretty fundamental social skills. Things like an apparent inability to interact with children of their own age, or behaving obnoxiously to others in ways that would be rapidly stamped out by peers.

I went to a college that actively recruited homeschool students. Lots of experience with homeschoolers who just left home.

I haven’t seen the things you’re describing.

One of the most common things I saw in homeschoolers was a strong “intellectual hobby.”

They had curriculum bashed around them, so if there was a topic they liked, they could study it after year in increasing depth.

Of course, this is homeschoolers who go to college. Not necessarily representative.

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Post by hnhg »

virissimo wrote: post #235
hnhg wrote: post #220

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If we're going with full anecdotes, all the homeschooled folks I've had to deal with have had major issues integrating with wider society. I felt a bit sorry for them, even if they weren't always the nicest or well-meaning people to actually be around. But by the time they're a bit older, I guess it's too late.

How do you know whether people you've "had to deal with" were homeschooled or not? Might that method result in selection effects?

True. They had to tell me. Your points stand: they could very well have been a minor subset of the overall population. But also by the same argument, they could have been 100pct of the population. It's why I mentioned it's all anecdotal. Data is needed.

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Post by hnhg »

maroonblazer wrote: post #317
camjohnson26 wrote: post #284

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I doubt anyone I work with or meet knows I was homeschooled unless I specifically tell them, and it’s a pretty touchy subject because of the stereotypes people like the parent commenter have. Sounds like textbook survivorship bias, since the only homeschoolers you notice are the ones who are maladjusted. I know many people who were homeschooled and the range of outcomes varies, just like it does for public or private…

Some public school experiences can be great. Some homeschooling experiences can be great. Likewise each can be awful. We need more data.

Agreed. I made my point badly. Data is needed, not anecdotes.

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Post by potatosalad1 »

f154hfds wrote: post #56

As someone who was homeschooled through 6th grade and then private schooled and considering homeschool for early elementary (I have a 4 year old) I would say my main concern is actually in my wife's ability to maintain a parent/teacher balance right now. What I mean by this is simply wearing two hats in the household is a tricky business and can be overwhelming especially when our young students have younger siblings…

Does your wife have an education background too? If not, why not take on the teaching yourself if homeschooling is important to you?

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Post by ornornor »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #108

Social needs. Children need to learn how to be in relationship with others, it is the most fundamental need we have and is so important for the future of our planet. If I were to homeschool, it isn't about the learning, that is easy, it is about providing an environment where children can learn to co-exist with others. That can still be done with homeschool, but it will need to be intentional with daily activities th…

> Children need to learn how to be in relationship with others

Can’t that be achieved with activities outside of school like a sports club, the scouts, or whatever else the kid is actually interested in?

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