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Newer, better sunscreens have not been approved by the FDA

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Re: Newer, better sunscreens have not been approved by the FDA

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> At 36, I am just old enough to remember when sunscreen wasn’t a big deal. My mom, despite being among the palest people alive, does not remember bringing it on our earliest vacations, or hearing any mention of sun protection by our pediatrician. > Now SPF is ubiquitous. You can find it in lotions, sprays, gels, oils, powders, and implements that look like grade-school glue sticks, as well as infused into skin-care…

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No evidence of this, and no reasonable scientific hypothesis to make you think this would be true. There is nothing emitted from LED bulbs with enough energy to damage DNA. Secondary effects around sleep disruption, possibly, but not skin cancer.

Re: Newer, better sunscreens have not been approved by the FDA

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> At 36, I am just old enough to remember when sunscreen wasn’t a big deal. My mom, despite being among the palest people alive, does not remember bringing it on our earliest vacations, or hearing any mention of sun protection by our pediatrician. > Now SPF is ubiquitous. You can find it in lotions, sprays, gels, oils, powders, and implements that look like grade-school glue sticks, as well as infused into skin-care…

Better detection and screening for these cancers resulting in an apparently larger rate of incidence is an easy hypothesis to reach for.

Re: Newer, better sunscreens have not been approved by the FDA

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You're also not allowed to have the best toothpaste in the world. Toothpaste with Novamin can't be sold in the US. Thankfully the internet makes it easy to get the good stuff anyhow.

BioMin is supposedly an equivalent substance that is approved in the US.

https://drcollins.com/products/biomin-restore-toothpaste

Re: Newer, better sunscreens have not been approved by the FDA

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How often do people go to the dermatologist to have their moles checked?

Considering most are booked 12-18 months out, if they are even accepting new patients, probably not a lot.

Considering most are booked 12-18 months out

I'm pretty annoyed about how far out I have to book doctors these days, but forgive me if I doubt the 12-18 months number. I recently booked a dermatologist checkup and it was four weeks. Maybe if you are only willing to take one specific Doctor. What city are you in?

Re: Newer, better sunscreens have not been approved by the FDA

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Hack your own sunscreen: zinc powder, coconut oil, olive oil. I bought a lifetime supply of zinc for $10. It is edible and free of toxic endocrine disrupters. Goal is not to block everything since you need vitamin D.

Zinc powder? You mean zinc oxide I hope?

Yes of course.

Re: Newer, better sunscreens have not been approved by the FDA

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So much for consumer choice and free markets. I wonder why there aren't more attempts at consolidating regulatory information across countries. If some sunscreen or baby food is available in Europe I'd feel pretty comfortable using it, but I'm denied the opportunity to do so. It would be great if these kinds of items were made available for purchase with some sort of disclaimer. My guess is that in both the cases of…

> but I'm denied the opportunity to do so.

regulatory capture is the phrase that comes to mind.

Re: Newer, better sunscreens have not been approved by the FDA

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> At 36, I am just old enough to remember when sunscreen wasn’t a big deal. My mom, despite being among the palest people alive, does not remember bringing it on our earliest vacations, or hearing any mention of sun protection by our pediatrician. > Now SPF is ubiquitous. You can find it in lotions, sprays, gels, oils, powders, and implements that look like grade-school glue sticks, as well as infused into skin-care…

All those people tanning in the 90s aren’t going to get skin cancer right away - it takes a few decades to catch up.

Re: Newer, better sunscreens have not been approved by the FDA

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> At 36, I am just old enough to remember when sunscreen wasn’t a big deal. My mom, despite being among the palest people alive, does not remember bringing it on our earliest vacations, or hearing any mention of sun protection by our pediatrician. > Now SPF is ubiquitous. You can find it in lotions, sprays, gels, oils, powders, and implements that look like grade-school glue sticks, as well as infused into skin-care…

At 42 I remember the pre-sunscreen days as well. At the beginning of summer we would all go to the pool and get a nasty burn. Within a week we were at the pool all day every day and would not have a burn again until the next year. On average we would be getting around 3 painful but not serious burns per year (one at the start of summer, one when we went to the amusement park, one when we went out on a boat or something) despite hundreds and hundreds of hours of direct sun exposure each summer.

These days I rarely spend much time outside in the sun, and when I do I almost always burn. I am not in the sun enough to maintain a tan. When I go on vacation I can build up to about 4 or 5 hours of full sun exposure without burning in about 2 weeks (if I get outside a few weeks before to kickstart things), just in time to come home and lose my tan completely. As a result, I get sunburns more often now than I did as an 8 year old when I spent more than 40x more hours in the sun every year (roughly 4+ hours per day for 100 days of summer weather, vs today where it's maybe 20 minutes every few days).

I guess my hypothesis is: much less cumulative exposure can result in more damage to DNA if it is punctuated by periods of intense exposure when compared to consistent intense exposure.

Re: Newer, better sunscreens have not been approved by the FDA

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That’s not how the Supreme Court works. It’s a judicial body put in place to correct legislative issues. You have to have standing and a lawsuit to get in front of them, they can’t just choose to ‘get involved’.
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