> “What we’re learning from the hospital data is that insurers are really bad at negotiating” Do the insurers have any incentive to negotiate well? Since their customers are not very price-sensitive (since they aren't marketing directly to patients or doctors), I would imagine they don't have a huge incentive to do anything but apply a markup to whatever prices the hospital tells them it costs.
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#12> “What we’re learning from the hospital data is that insurers are really bad at negotiating” Do the insurers have any incentive to negotiate well? Since their customers are not very price-sensitive (since they aren't marketing directly to patients or doctors), I would imagine they don't have a huge incentive to do anything but apply a markup to whatever prices the hospital tells them it costs.
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#14> “What we’re learning from the hospital data is that insurers are really bad at negotiating” Do the insurers have any incentive to negotiate well? Since their customers are not very price-sensitive (since they aren't marketing directly to patients or doctors), I would imagine they don't have a huge incentive to do anything but apply a markup to whatever prices the hospital tells them it costs.
If insurers’ customers were not price sensitive, then they would have higher profit margins than 5%.
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#15I'm one of the co-founders of Turquoise Health, mentioned in the article here. We've been downloading and parsing this data all day. It's a really big deal in the industry that the prices that insurance companies pay doctors are now being shared publicly. It will have all sorts of positive impacts over time, hopefully making rate negotiations more consistent and fair between different insurance plans. Right now, 10x…
What do you serve to gain from scraping all of this information?
> Are you a transparent provider or payer? > There is a market for transparency. Let patients find you by claiming > your provider page and listing your services. It only takes 10 minutes.
But following through that link says it is a free program.
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#16Do you like 90% margins? Doctors sure do! :)
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#17This is regulation everybody should be able to get behind. How are these markets supposed to function efficiently with healthy competition if critical information like this is hidden away?
That would get in the way of unadulterated profit , you see.
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#18> “What we’re learning from the hospital data is that insurers are really bad at negotiating” Do the insurers have any incentive to negotiate well? Since their customers are not very price-sensitive (since they aren't marketing directly to patients or doctors), I would imagine they don't have a huge incentive to do anything but apply a markup to whatever prices the hospital tells them it costs.
If insurers’ customers were not price sensitive, then they would have higher profit margins than 5%.
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#19If a person wants to pay directly in cash/credit-card for services rendered by a doctor, do doctors' agreements with insurance companies generally prevent them from offering a cash discount to cash-paying patiences lower than the insurance company negotiated price?
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
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The information on their landing page was immediately relevant to me https://turquoise.health/ I hope they have a good business plan and manage to stick around!
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