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Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by ta988 »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #169
slfnflctd wrote: post #140

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Being too high can be really uncomfortable for a lot of people. Some strains produce more unpleasant side effects than others, as well (although people will often react very differently to the same thing, of course). I didn't believe there was any such thing as weed I wouldn't like before I gained legal access. Now I know better. Perhaps there's been resistance to talking about this much because it's a new freedom an…

I've taken every non-opiate drug available under the sun. The only really bad experience was a night of absolute terror after a deep drag on a joint.

The dose make the poison. Lots of non-opiate drugs can cause nights of terrors (for you or those around you).

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hans1729 wrote: post #44
coffeebeanHH wrote: post #28

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Yes, but... Basically other parties aren't that different. In the end it doesn't matter which color of the rainbow, or black, is going to fuck the people.

The SPD brands itself as social, pro worker, peaceful, pragmatic and economically-focused all at the same time. They woo young voters, while their core clientel is >65. They actively make policy that works against the youth (serving their main voters, which are old), while presenting themselves as the good guys to the youth . From my point of view, this makes them pure evil, much more so than the other parties. Yes,…

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Post by gigaflop »

dmix wrote: post #235
gigaflop wrote: post #232

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I'm not sure where you're getting those numbers from. The vape shop near me sells nicotine salts in 25mg/ml to 50mg/ml ranges, which roughly translates to 2.5% and 5% strength. I've never seen something so low as 5mg/ml.

maybe you're only using a disposable brand like Juul? You could go down to 3mg here in Canada with the one I used. Picking a salt liquid at random, this one lets you go down to 1mg, since they probably add the nicotine to a 0mg product: https://www.dashvapes.com/products/e-juice/24/grappleberry+i...

Interesting, I'm used to the US market. Back when I was a regular user (as opposed to sometimes-caving-and-buying-a-dispo quitter), salts were usually 25 and 50, with lower strengths provided by freebase nicotine juices. I think the last freebase juice I bought was a 3 or 6mg, but those were less common.

Disposables are usually 5% salts over here, afaik.

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Post by frereubu »

BrianOnHN wrote: post #153
dpbriggs wrote: post #141

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That could be the an explanation for only having high potency weed in areas where it's prohibited, but it's equally available here in Canada where it's legal. I think people just like it.

Because all the Canadian weed stays there. Right...

With respect, it sounds like you're having a bad day, and it's coming over as if you want a fight. I agree with you that prohibition causes all kinds of undesirable effects - including yet another route for racism to express itself - but you need to use more temperate language if you want a substantive discussion.

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Post by peanut_worm »

selfmodruntime wrote: post #3

I think the legalization of cannabis in Europe has a lot of potential. I just wish that we would take measures to avoid the ever increasing levels of THC dosage in weed to insane levels, like you see in the US or California specifically. I firmly believe that cannabis can do a lot of good, but the poison is in the dosage. It has been shown in the past that increasing THC while decreasing CBD leads to an increase in n…

You can still find lower THC cannabis at any dispensary. Most carry from 10 to 30%. Most also carry CBD flower and very low dose edibles.

I also don’t understand this argument because you can just take 1 hit and be done. No one is forcing you to finish a whole joint. Should liquor be outlawed because it is stronger than beer?

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Post by lm28469 »

tommit wrote: post #122
htkibar wrote: post #101

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In all fairness, it isn't like we want people to come as tourists here to smoke weed or something so should be fine no? For anyone else wanting to know more about the Dutch policy on this: https://www.government.nl/topics/drugs/toleration-policy-reg...

Quick question for our Dutch neighbors: why not? I never understood why it is exactly that The Netherlands were kind of against the drug tourism. I mean, I'm sure your average pot head tourist is not that much trouble and leaves quite a bit of money, no? I studied in The Netherlands and always thought I'd be proud as a country to be that "progressive" in a sense -- especially once it became clear that other countries…

> I'm sure your average pot head tourist is not that much trouble and leaves quite a bit of money, no?

aha, they literally only come for weed and prostitutes, let's say it doesn't attract the most well behaved people in the world. Imagine the typical German or English 20 something years old tourist in Mallorca but instead of being drunk they're stoned.

Low travel cost + mass tourism + young adults + drugs = problems. You can travel there for 70 euros back and forth from any major city in Europe

It's limited to very specific streets but these streets are hell on earth, I don't even know why people go there anymore: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/02/world/europe/amsterdam-to...

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Post by unethical_ban »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #37
kennyadam wrote: post #13

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Strongly agree. As the THC percentage has increased, so has my anxiety when I smoke it. If I go out of my way to find lower quality weed, I enjoy it much more.

You strongly agree that they should regulate weed to be weaker so that you don't have to check potency before purchase? ok

Yes, there is something to be said about at least being more explicit on warning people about the dangers of consuming high % THC products.

An industry that can profit off addiction is being observed drastically increasing the level of an addictive substance in their product. You expect consumers to be perfectly informed. I don't. Thus, it is reasonable to discuss whether an at what threshold a product should be labelled as higher-risk. If the behavior of an industry seems malicious enough and its public health impact adverse enough, regulation is necessary.

I'm arguing in the abstract.

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Post by adamsmith143 »

selfmodruntime wrote: post #3

I think the legalization of cannabis in Europe has a lot of potential. I just wish that we would take measures to avoid the ever increasing levels of THC dosage in weed to insane levels, like you see in the US or California specifically. I firmly believe that cannabis can do a lot of good, but the poison is in the dosage. It has been shown in the past that increasing THC while decreasing CBD leads to an increase in n…

>[1]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6312155/

This is an opinion piece written by a Psychiatrist. Hardly conclusive or convincing. Also focuses on teen use so not sure it has much relevance for the vast majority of users in Legal jurisdictions.

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