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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by conductr »

aceazzameen wrote: post #135
civilized wrote: post #79

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Waffle iron. It's a horizontal toaster and applies enough pressure to cook faster. Leaves cool marks. Just don't burn yourself! (Technically applies to the toaster as well though)

Same as a panini press. We've never owned a toaster, which seem weird to some. We use our panini press instead. It's a flat model without any grill marks. Easy to clean and makes perfectly even toast.

Tbf the texture and mouth feel is completely different. I prefer toasted as the bread dries out a bit and gets crispy in the process.

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Post by [deleted] »

cupofpython wrote: post #302
t_mann wrote: post #258

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> I would never say this to my kids. So what would the learning experience consist of then? > If the kid was present for it. OP mentioned several hours of work + dry runs in the garden. Pretty hard to miss that, unless they're perpetually glued to their screens (which would be the bigger concern). PS: Also, unless you take your kid to a physical store, the new toaster will pop up even more magically than the cleaned…

the learning experience is that the toaster they were familiar with is gone because of what they did. very simple. I guess I am the only one here that doesnt want to fuck with toaster repair. they arent worth it. they can cause fires and give electrical shocks. honestly, the last thing i want my kid to think in that situation is that it is okay for them to put their hands in the toaster. Which they might do if they s…

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Post by mypalmike »

tehwebguy wrote: post #125
honkdaddy wrote: post #42

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I just looked into it.. Ugh, this kind of content is just abysmal. 25 GLUE GUN HACKS YOU HAVE TO TRY 24 SIMPLE BEAUTY TRICKS TO MAKE YOU LOOK FABULOUS https://www.youtube.com/c/5MinuteCraftsYouTube/ Who are the people watching this stuff? I assume it's largely women and parents, as a lot of the "hacks" are beauty or parenting related. I watched a few minutes and all the ideas were just... terrible? Ranging from silly…

Plenty of people hate this shit and still watch it because they got tricked. I watched (skimmed) like 12 videos yesterday trying to find a hack to locate my empty AirPods case. There’s apparently no way to do it but each video had a more infuriatingly false title than the last.

I'm curious what theoretical mechanism might there be for an airpods case to be findable?

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by iso1631 »

throwaway9870 wrote: post #150
raldi wrote: post #109

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Rather than admonishing everyone for wondering the obvious question, why not just explain your reasoning?

Current flowing through your body is what kills you. But it doesn't flow through you just because it is a high-current supply (think car battery for example). It flows through you because the source voltage divided by your impedance is what controls how much current flows through you. Impedance is the general concept for resistance and basically indicates how current and voltage are related. The higher the impedance,…

There's no particular safety concerned when you're playing with hundreds of kilovolts in a typical school. You need it when the thing you're messing with has the capability of delivering a lot of amps.

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

CM30 wrote: post #32

YouTube's moderation is ridiculous, and it demonstrates the problem Google has in general. They don't like paying actual people to moderate their sites, and rely on automated systems and bots to do everything for them. So, if there's ever an issue (or you have a bunch of scammers mass reporting you because you debunk their 'work'), then YouTube/Google seems to think you're the problem instead of the scumbags. We need…

I am SHOCKED that Google wants to make money and does not care if they hurt people in the process! SHOCKED!

If google had to moderate YouTube in any meaningful way they would go broke, not only because of how much it would cost, but also because of the lawsuits.

There is a reason we have regulations in the United States. It is so things like YouTube never happen in the first place. If they were treated as publishers in the first place we would not be having had this problem.

YouTube is a broadcaster with millions of independent program directors. Until it is seen as such my the Feds nothing will change.

P.S.A.: Don't let your kids use YouTube.

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Post by joshstrange »

tzs wrote: post #281
HideousKojima wrote: post #50

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I had one the other week where I was replacing an outlet in the kitchen. I flipped the kitchen breaker and the lights and appliances all turned off. I skipped the important step of actually testing the outlet and stupidly assumed it no longer had power. Turns out it was on a different circuit from the rest of the kitchen. The outlet was stuck in the wall box so I reached a flathead screwdriver in to try and pry it ou…

> The outlet was stuck in the wall box so I reached a flathead screwdriver in to try and pry it out, and turned my screwdriver into an arc welder for a second. I've got a screwdriver that incorporates a non-contact AC current sensor. Mine is a Gardner Bender SDT-354 [1] that I think I bought at Home Depot or Lowe's. When the current sensor is turned on if you bring the tip of the screwdriver near a live AC wire an LE…

Yeah I have the standalone tool and it's a must-have for electric work. While replacing some switches in my house I thought I had the right breaker (sidenote: those breaker-detector tools are like magic, much better than the "is the light still on?" method). The lights went out but when I jammed my tester in the gang box it started beeping. I ended up needing to flip off 2 breakers (took me a while to find the second one) before it finally stopped beeping. From that moment on I promised myself that no matter how "sure" I was, I would ALWAYS stick the tester in before reaching in, even if I hadn't touched the breaker box between working on a switch.

I've been bitten enough times in software alone by things I was "sure" about, I don't take any chances when it comes to electricity.

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Post by tarsinge »

xxs wrote: post #195
raldi wrote: post #109

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Rather than admonishing everyone for wondering the obvious question, why not just explain your reasoning?

It's the Ohm's law: V=IR. Amps (I) kill you but your body has rather high resistance, at least kilohms (even when wet), and it depends on the voltage partly. So low voltage even with high amps current do nothing to you.

And the corollary is high voltage with low amps do nothing to you too, neither amps nor voltage kill you alone.

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Post by krisoft »

foobarian wrote: post #223
colejohnson66 wrote: post #24

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I like Big Clive (and Electroboom) because they know how to be safe, but do the stupid thing anyways (safely) to show how bad the ideas are.

It's disappointing how most of the articles and videos criticizing the dangerous content don't explain why exactly something is dangerous. They just scream "omg high voltage" "one mistake you're dead" and so on. I honestly think they are worse than the source; it reminds me of the medieval experimenters and alchemists being oppressed by the conformist public.

> It's disappointing how most of the articles and videos criticizing the dangerous content don't explain why exactly something is dangerous.

Which videos are you talking about in particular?

Both the Ann Reardon and the Big Clive video explains exactly what makes this experiment more dangerous than others people do.

The Big Clive one in particular goes into interesting details about how a ground fault circuit interrupter works, and why it doesn't protect you in this case.

> They just scream "omg high voltage" "one mistake you're dead" and so on.

The ones I have seen don't scream. They calmly explain that the voltage generated in this setup is much much higher than the voltage the average experimenter has experience with.

About the "one mistake you're dead". That is the crux of the matter. People should be aware of how thin the margins are, and how few guard rails protect them in any particular situation.

> it reminds me of the medieval experimenters and alchemists being oppressed by the conformist public.

Who is oppressing anybody here?

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Post by iso1631 »

dpratt wrote: post #299
raldi wrote: post #109

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Rather than admonishing everyone for wondering the obvious question, why not just explain your reasoning?

An analogy: while technically what kills you due to a fall is called “gravity”, that’s not the whole picture. In actuality, it’s the height you fall from, which allows gravity to build up enough velocity to kill you when the fall ends. Despite the fact that you’re experiencing the same gravitational acceleration from both, a one meter fall, while being potentially dangerous if you’re not prepared and allowed to land…

The ground technically kills you. People have fallen for months, even over a year, without harm

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Post by bentcorner »

foobarian wrote: post #223
colejohnson66 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like Big Clive (and Electroboom) because they know how to be safe, but do the stupid thing anyways (safely) to show how bad the ideas are.

It's disappointing how most of the articles and videos criticizing the dangerous content don't explain why exactly something is dangerous. They just scream "omg high voltage" "one mistake you're dead" and so on. I honestly think they are worse than the source; it reminds me of the medieval experimenters and alchemists being oppressed by the conformist public.

If you read the article, Reardon's video goes over exactly why fractal wood burning is dangerous. She doesn't go into extreme detail but I think it's enough for the layman to understand (i.e., you can get electrocuted easily, and a gfci won't save you). bigclivedotcom's video above also goes into why fractal wood burning is dangerous.

> I honestly think they are worse than the source; it reminds me of the medieval experimenters and alchemists being oppressed by the conformist public.

I can kind of see where you're coming from here but in this case I think the right thing has happened.

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