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Re: Harvard Must Fall

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I moved to this country, one of the reasons was great education system. Now I'm here it seems really confusing and overwhelming. Lots of tiger moms pressing overworked kids to get into Ivy league, and so much wokeness. The problem being that Ivy students really dont sound like they're smart or creative, they seem just people who are out of touch with humanity, doing what they're told on the first step of the corporate rat race.

I definitely think the big famous schools are great for post-grad, but undergrad I'm not so sure. I'm thinking of some cheap local college is good enough and save the money.

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I moved to this country, one of the reasons was great education system. Now I'm here it seems really confusing and overwhelming. Lots of tiger moms pressing overworked kids to get into Ivy league, and so much wokeness. The problem being that Ivy students really dont sound like they're smart or creative, they seem just people who are out of touch with humanity, doing what they're told on the first step of the corporat…

Cheap local colleges are good “enough” but it also depends on the student body, teachers and community.

I personally have come to the conclusion that if you’re an American, you will benefit more from doing it a bit DIY via Western Governors University while you live abroad. That’s what I did and I’m glad for the experience, I was able to enroll into local universities in Japan and complete a Bachelors at WGU.

It’s a great talking point when it comes up for the HR screenings and credits transfer to higher education if I want - but I don’t think I need more than a bachelors.

If short of WGU I’d say find a program abroad that is recognizable by a USA credit body.

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I moved to this country, one of the reasons was great education system. Now I'm here it seems really confusing and overwhelming. Lots of tiger moms pressing overworked kids to get into Ivy league, and so much wokeness. The problem being that Ivy students really dont sound like they're smart or creative, they seem just people who are out of touch with humanity, doing what they're told on the first step of the corporat…

Credentialism is a scam, our corporations are soaking up too much talent and this latest round of layoffs shows that the corps don't know what to do with the mess of half talented half nots they hired.

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I moved to this country, one of the reasons was great education system. Now I'm here it seems really confusing and overwhelming. Lots of tiger moms pressing overworked kids to get into Ivy league, and so much wokeness. The problem being that Ivy students really dont sound like they're smart or creative, they seem just people who are out of touch with humanity, doing what they're told on the first step of the corporat…

This isn’t really a fair stereotype of Ivy League undergrads at all. Parental pressure doesn’t translate into admission as much as you might think, given how transparently manufactured their applications end up looking.

The Ivy League graduates I know went there because they were naturally high achievers, more or less. They liked being challenged, accepting challenges, and working hard to complete them. Ivy Leagues deliver challenges and high expectations non-stop. Anyone who isn’t naturally the type of person to seek out and complete challenges isn’t going to last long there.

> I'm thinking of some cheap local college is good enough and save the money.

I really don’t understand this notion that Ivy League universities are somehow no better than community colleges. Everything from the faculty to the coursework to the buildings and resources are world-class. It really is a step above and I do encourage ambitious young people to take a serious look at top-tier universities, including (but not limited to) Ivies. The benefits are very real, but only for people who want that level of challenge.

On the other hand, if your goal is simply to graduate college and move on then Ivy League would be a terrible choice. They really are much more difficult.

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