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Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by h2odragon »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #33
selfmodruntime wrote: post #3

I think the legalization of cannabis in Europe has a lot of potential. I just wish that we would take measures to avoid the ever increasing levels of THC dosage in weed to insane levels, like you see in the US or California specifically. I firmly believe that cannabis can do a lot of good, but the poison is in the dosage. It has been shown in the past that increasing THC while decreasing CBD leads to an increase in n…

Maybe a stupid question but are there any cannabis variants which are agreed on as the 'wild'/ original cannabis? I can see that being used by sellers as a marketing claim for health benefits in a not so distant future?

There's ditchweed everywhere almost. It's been influenced by domesticated varieties but after a couple years a patch will be pretty well back to "landrace" and potency will depend on how much predation and insect load it gets.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by orangepurple »

fabian2k wrote: post #5

Germany has lots of borders to several european countries, once it is legal here there is probably no realistic way to efficiently control the transfer across borders.

They could technically leave the European Union Customs Union (EUCU), stay in the EU, and continue to be a part of the Schengen Area. Then more products could be controlled at the borders. I never said it would be a good idea.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by numerik_meister »

selfmodruntime wrote: post #3

I think the legalization of cannabis in Europe has a lot of potential. I just wish that we would take measures to avoid the ever increasing levels of THC dosage in weed to insane levels, like you see in the US or California specifically. I firmly believe that cannabis can do a lot of good, but the poison is in the dosage. It has been shown in the past that increasing THC while decreasing CBD leads to an increase in n…

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Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by romanovcode »

fabian2k wrote: post #5

Germany has lots of borders to several european countries, once it is legal here there is probably no realistic way to efficiently control the transfer across borders.

The only difference will be that the weed will be bought legally. What you're implying is already happening for decades.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by darkerside »

numerik_meister wrote: post #53
selfmodruntime wrote: post #3

I think the legalization of cannabis in Europe has a lot of potential. I just wish that we would take measures to avoid the ever increasing levels of THC dosage in weed to insane levels, like you see in the US or California specifically. I firmly believe that cannabis can do a lot of good, but the poison is in the dosage. It has been shown in the past that increasing THC while decreasing CBD leads to an increase in n…

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s/*/That's interesting. I've never thought about what positive effects there might be. Can you expand?/g

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by stefan_ »

fabian2k wrote: post #5

Germany has lots of borders to several european countries, once it is legal here there is probably no realistic way to efficiently control the transfer across borders.

Because right now we are perfectly in control of illicit drug transfers across borders.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by Xylakant »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #4

That's great, a sliver of more freedom in the world - and long overdue. Hopefully this will allow the police to do something about crime which is becoming a huge issue in Europe (probably thanks to lockdowns, recession, uncontrolled immigration). I hope it catches on everywhere else but I'm definitely not going to buy their overpriced and overtaxed products - I'll just buy seeds and grow it for personal use.

> Hopefully this will allow the police to do something about crime which is becoming a huge issue in Europe (probably thanks to lockdowns, recession, uncontrolled immigration).

Definitely not everywhere in Europe - the PKS in germany shows declining levels of crime (+) as well as for violent crimes (++) since 2017 until 2021. Now, this statistics need to be read carefully since they track what‘s been _reported_ to the police with no further investigation, so there are various statistical effects to take into account when reading them (+++), but they do provide a good idea of the overall trend. If crime were becoming a huge issue in germany, one would expect an uptick in reported crimes, but that‘s not visible anywhere in the stats.

(+) https://www.bka.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Publikationen/Pol... (++) https://www.bka.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Publikationen/Pol... (+++) for example, it‘s much more likely that immigrants get reported after a street/bar fight than native Germans. Another example is that rape and sexual harassment are underreported, but the willingness to report is rising, so it‘s currently not exactly clear what produces the rise in the stats.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by Tade0 »

My high school classmate and, coincidentally, my SO's friend from college is currently doing time for "possession of large amounts of marijuana" - 19g to be specific.

He used to be a local weed dealer and while he knew what he was getting into and was consciously breaking the law at the time, after his first arrest a few years ago he stopped and got a regular job.

He only got involved with the court again because one acquaintance of his was charged with drug dealing and figured he could lessen his sentence by giving the authorities someone else to prosecute.

All in all a person who could otherwise continue to be a productive member of society has to spend two years in prison now.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by Findecanor »

I find it crazy to decriminalise a drug in smoked form. It is often through second-hand smoke in social situations that people get addicted to a smoked drug before they start using it themselves. I'm afraid that that would lead to more addiction.

Personally, I don't have anything against it being ingested in other forms: such as "magic" brownies or vaping that don't affect other people around you.

Re: Germany’s move to legalise cannabis expected to create ‘domino effect’

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Post by subpixel »

wishfish wrote: post #26
selfmodruntime wrote: post #3

I think the legalization of cannabis in Europe has a lot of potential. I just wish that we would take measures to avoid the ever increasing levels of THC dosage in weed to insane levels, like you see in the US or California specifically. I firmly believe that cannabis can do a lot of good, but the poison is in the dosage. It has been shown in the past that increasing THC while decreasing CBD leads to an increase in n…

Do weed shops in legal states not have "light" options? Seems weird if they didn't, but I guess that might be a side effect of recent legalization. That the heavy stuff sells better to consumers who used to take whatever they could find back in the black market days. Anyways, I'm asking because I unfortunately live in a state where it's still illegal.

Hello from legal New England.

The only solution I have found is to buy gummies and cut them up into smaller doses. I’ve found a local company that does a hybrid (sativa/indica) gummy and I vastly prefer them to the unspecified gummies which tend to be stronger than I am looking for.

I’m tempted to get seeds for a low THC strain but I’m not such a connoisseur as to make that a priority.

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