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CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by lallysingh »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #69
bergenty wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my opinion, the contact lenses solve a whole lot of issues. Invisible to people around you, literally captures the entirety of your retina, no motion sickness, higher fidelity and did I mention completely invisible to everyone around you making uptake on this seamless.

You know what contacts don’t solve? Shoving your finger into your eye, cleanliness and fatigue. I stuck with glasses precisely because I didn’t want to deal with keeping contacts clean, shoving things in my eyes everyday, and retaining the ability to just pop them off and ignore the world.

You can stick with glasses then.

Liking contacts is a very reasonable prerequisite. I've had no trouble with my contacts for the last 20 years.

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by FooHentai »

ricardobeat wrote: post #89
Closi wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They have a functioning prototype. Who are you and why does your opinion matter? I'm allowed to share my opinion on here, it's an internet forum dude. Besides, I don't need a PhD to work out that I don't want to put that thing on my eyeball, or that some of the claims are pretty fantastical compared to the proof given. If they put their prototype on Marques Brownlee or Linus and they said it was good then I would b…

“I don’t like it”, which is what this comment can be summarized as, is a perfectly valid opinion. But it’s quite different from “the product is nowhere near ready for consumers, the technology doesn't appear to be there, and I can't imagine them being able to release anything other than a tech demo for many years” which is pure speculation and dismisses the entire news as.. a lie, I guess?

Reducing op's post to your own summary, then attacking that summary, is not making a point in good faith.

Besides, it's not pure speculation, it's sitting on very solid foundations of reasoning that were outlined in the earlier post - Current cutting-edge tech for regular contact lenses has resulted in something (silicone hydro-gel) that lasts at best a month before it breaks down, but allows airflow through to the eye which is very important for long-term use and comfort. It's fair to be skeptical about overcoming this issue, which reasonably you would have to do if you're going to layer in some expensive tech and give a user a reasonable lifetime from the product.

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by GiorgioG »

My eyes are my most critical sensory input devices. I wouldn’t risk putting anything like this in direct contact with them all day. If your phone battery catches fire, you might get a nasty burn on the leg (assuming it was in a pant pocket), but this practically guarantees you lose your vision. If they can miniaturize it to this point, they can probably put it on glasses.

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by ricardobeat »

ghostly_s wrote: post #32
roughly wrote: post #18

> a green monochrome MicroLED display measuring less than 0.5 mm (0.02 in) in diameter, with a resolution of 14,000 pixels per inch So, that's 280px at the widest part of the display, and a total of ~62k pixels, right? There's a decent amount you can do with that, but I think even the demo picture in the PR shot's probably ambitious for the amount of data this can display.

This has got to be a contender for most-uselessly framed statistic ever. I considered they might do some fancy interpolation w/ the saccades of the eye to simulate a larger display, mimicking our eyes own tricks, but it doesn't seem that's possible if the display is saccading along with the rest of the eyeball? I'm also confused about what useful 'stabilizing' their sensors can do when the display only covers a small…

This video has some clips showing the viewing experience, as they are aiming for: https://youtu.be/d2fBBJRjccs

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by ricardobeat »

GaltMidas wrote: post #26

How does he blink? From the picture it looks like his eyelid would have to be stretched out over the device with his fingers.

I know this is against HN rules, but what's up with all these comments who clearly have not made a minimal effort to read the article? It is a 600-word piece, not a research paper.

> this is all kept so extraordinarily slim and compact that you can stick it on your eyeball and still stretch your eyelid over top of it without the use of a shoehorn

Hard lenses are something like 1.5mm thick, plenty of space for modern electronics.

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by bornfreddy »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #73
RC_ITR wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, let's diligence this, so our skepticism isn't unfounded: >Invisible to people around you. Except for the not-built body-wearable computer that will eventually run the things [0] > literally captures the entirety of your retina This prototype covers >no motion sickness, higher fidelity I think you're comparing this to headsets, but I can tell you from [1] that this is not 'high-fidelity' by any means (for one, it'…

many many years ago i saw a nat geo "fighting documentary" where the guest (special forces something, ) had a eye tracker and a random person walk through a test course. what they showed was the "special guest" was actively looking and investigating threats, checking surroundings and assessing everything. the random person was just "walking" without actually "looking" or "concentrating" on anything, . "guest" was doi…

That sounds interesting, do you happen to know how one could find this documentary?

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by euroderf »

LooseMarmoset wrote: post #56
birdman3131 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotal but lasik seriously messed with my dads eyesight for over a year. And he drove an OTR truck (at night quite a bit). Had he been aware how bad it was and that it only lasted 10 years or so he said he would have stuck to glasses.

I had lasik in 1999. I was legally blind (uncorrected) in my left eye, and needed a pretty serious correction in my right eye. After lasik, my vision was 20/15 (left) and 20/10 (right). Now, in 2022, I still have no need of glasses, although I'd say my vision has degraded somewhat - still good enough to pass the driver exam uncorrected, however. Night vision is objectively worse after lasik. Poorer light sensitivity,…

What does it do to your near-in sight though ? Can you read ingredients labels ?

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by euroderf »

gumby wrote: post #36
Closi wrote: post #6

Call me skeptical, but looking at that photograph it looks nothing like something I want to put in my eyes. This product is way too much of a moonshot - the product is nowhere near ready for consumers, the technology doesn't appear to be there, and I can't imagine them being able to release anything other than a tech demo for many years. There is a reason that all the research in contact lenses to date has been to ma…

I assume the military is the first anticipated customer. Apparently they've been at it for seven years, presumably supported by military R&D contracts.

Spy stuff too

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by euroderf »

colordrops wrote: post #19
pedrovhb wrote: post #13

I've been wanting for this forever (though I imagine I'll be waiting quite a bit more still). How does it deal with the eye shifting focus? Would you have to unfocus your eyes to be able to see it? That'd probably be uncomfortable.

Perhaps the focus is always like 5 feet in front of you?

So then does it so confuse your brain that your normal focusing is interfered with ?

Re: CEO test-drives Mojo Vision's smart augmented reality contact lens

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Post by bornfreddy »

hinkley wrote: post #59
pdpi wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whatever tech could make these AR contacts comfortable to wear all day would be worth a fortune for plain old prescription contacts. I’m willing, he’ll I’d be happy and excited, to be proven wrong here, but it seems to me that the balance of probability tips in favour of them having something half-baked and non-viable, and my eyes are definitely too precious to risk them on a bad v1 product

To be fair, AR contact lenses could more easily absorb a $10 premium on a material that is more comfortable for extended wear than regular contact lenses. Yes, it would be good if contacts were more comfortable, but maybe it's a cost problem rather than a lack of capability.

The contacts are expensive, yes, but for a lot of people (myself included) they could still easily be sold at twice the price if material was more comfortable.
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