One problem is when one family member starts eating those, the rest is subject or influenced by it.
France bans veggie ′steaks,′ ′sausages′ to describe vegetarian products
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Re: France bans veggie ′steaks,′ ′sausages′ to describe vegetarian products
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
...no, in this case you are absolutely shopping wrong. Pay attention to the labels.
Oh believe me, I do especially after that, but that does not justify misleading labeling practices. It’s absolutely intended to be deceptive and ride on the good PR of other products.
That's not misleading labeling, and the naming is intended to explain what it's attempting to mimic. Many consumers appreciate that and use it as a signal when shopping.
Re: France bans veggie ′steaks,′ ′sausages′ to describe vegetarian products
#103It's getting ridiculous here in Sweden. Actual product names (they tend to use English, sometimes with intentional misspellings to get around regulations, I assume): "Vegan Grated Ch se" ( https://assets.icanet.se/t_product_large_2x_v1,f_auto/731024... ) "Roast Beaf - Plant-based cold cut" ( https://assets.icanet.se/t_product_large_2x_v1,f_auto/735003... ) "Parveggio - grated" ( https://assets.icanet.se/t_product_lar…
Reminds me of one of my favorite King of the Hill episodes:
"Not dogs" are hot dogs made of tofu
Of course there is always "faux fu" for the tofu intolerant.
Re: France bans veggie ′steaks,′ ′sausages′ to describe vegetarian products
#104I find it funny that vegans would even want to associate with food names of products that they abhor. Many vegans say that have never eaten meat, so why would they want 'steak' or 'sausage' fake meat?
Re: France bans veggie ′steaks,′ ′sausages′ to describe vegetarian products
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
What sucks is I think the clones are terrible introductions to vegetarian food compared to the real deals. Screw a fake chicken nugget and ketchup, give people a falafel ball and yogurt sauce. The best vegetarian food there is makes no attempt to be fake meat, it stands on its own.
If you’re using chicken nuggets as the example you’re way off. Every vegetarian and vegan swears by Morning Star buffalo nuggets and the Gardein Ultimate Nuggets are better than chicken. You’re right about a lot of veggie substitutes but nuggets are one of the cases where it is just as good.
> Morning Star buffalo nuggets
Made from fresh buffalos I presume?
Re: France bans veggie ′steaks,′ ′sausages′ to describe vegetarian products
#106Eat Mor Chikin says Chick-Fil-A
Re: France bans veggie ′steaks,′ ′sausages′ to describe vegetarian products
#107In the US, the dairy industry tried this and thankfully lost (in California): The Animal Legal Defense Fund represented Miyoko’s Kitchen in its challenge of unconstitutional restrictions placed on plant-based dairy products’ marketing and labeling Miyoko makes vegan cheese and brought the California Department of Food and Agriculture to court to challenge their ban on the term "cheese" to represent her products. She…
That would be completely fair, assuming the reverse is true as well. That is, being able to sell real cheese as "vegan cheese" to trick vegans into eating it. I was tricked into buying vegan sausages. They don't deserve protection either.
> I was tricked into buying vegan sausages.
I hope you weren't ill for too long.
Re: France bans veggie ′steaks,′ ′sausages′ to describe vegetarian products
#108I find it funny that vegans would even want to associate with food names of products that they abhor. Many vegans say that have never eaten meat, so why would they want 'steak' or 'sausage' fake meat?
It's sort of 50/50 within the community, actually. I don't want to eat fake meat.
But folks who are avoiding meat on Fridays and during Lent are different from me.
Re: France bans veggie ′steaks,′ ′sausages′ to describe vegetarian products
#109In the US, the dairy industry tried this and thankfully lost (in California): The Animal Legal Defense Fund represented Miyoko’s Kitchen in its challenge of unconstitutional restrictions placed on plant-based dairy products’ marketing and labeling Miyoko makes vegan cheese and brought the California Department of Food and Agriculture to court to challenge their ban on the term "cheese" to represent her products. She…
That would be completely fair, assuming the reverse is true as well. That is, being able to sell real cheese as "vegan cheese" to trick vegans into eating it. I was tricked into buying vegan sausages. They don't deserve protection either.
Yes, this is a great business idea! Would you like to fund my "vegan cheese from dairy" company? I'll give you a 10% stake for $10M USD.
Re: France bans veggie ′steaks,′ ′sausages′ to describe vegetarian products
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've found it's taken ages for the various makers to come around to the fact that you have to compete on taste, otherwise none of this is worth buying. There's finally a few (e.g, Violife) who have started to get close. Kite Hill's almond ricotta is probably 1:1 for me and I eat it when I find it on sale. I think if you're after "luxury" cheese (the kind you might enjoy with a bottle of wine) it's harder, but for day…
the overwhelming majority of cheese I eat is old cheddar or mozzarella, and I haven't seen a vegan cheese does a simulation of either worth talking about. Cooking them is even worse, while cooking cheddar or mozza is great. It's just not the same.
Eh, Mozzarella is a tough one. I'd agree there's little options there yet, but I don't use that often enough to know if there's anything new (the wife also prefers getting a ball of fresh mozzarella sometimes, so I don't bother with alternatives there).
Cheddar though... I'd have to disagree. To each their own though!