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Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by esperent »

SECProto wrote: post #36
LeoPanthera wrote: post #3

To summarize: If you use a Logitech bluetooth device, it creates enough interference that high-bandwidth products like the Airpods will not function correctly. If you switch the Logitech device to use their "unifying" adapter, which doesn't use bluetooth but a different proprietary wireless protocol, the problem goes away. Logitech acknowledged the problem about six months ago but thus far have deflected any further…

My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

Living in a country where ground wires are not installed as standard, oh you are so wrong. Anything that has a wall plug carries crazy levels of background hum to any audio equipment I plug into it. I'm sure there is something I could buy to fix that (I can't fix the electrics though as I'm renting).

On the other hand, instead of doing loads of research and buying new equipment, I can just connect my headphones or speakers by Bluetooth and the noise is gone.

Now I have to deal with the annoyances of Bluetooth which are not zero either. But it's a great tradeoff for me.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by aqfamnzc »

ungamedplayer wrote: post #100
technick wrote: post #83

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Complaining won't do anything because each individual product has already passed thru fcc certifications. All devices operating on the 2.4 ghz band must accept interference as it's not a licensed band.

Thank you ! A lot of people mistake how this band seems to work. Its not that the device can't create interference, its that it must ACCEPT interferance.

As opposed to what? Reflecting it? (Honest question.)

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by joshspankit »

jakear wrote: post #54
noirbot wrote: post #40

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I dunno, if you haven't run into audio or video interference on a wired device, you're lucky or have quality cables. I've definitely picked up radio stations on headphones or had nearby electrical currents induce an annoying buzz in a microphone or distort a video signal.

> I've definitely picked up radio stations on headphones Not exactly the same, but makes me reminisce the days of the iPod nano. It offered FM radio using the headphone cables as an antenna. I haven’t seen that supported anywhere since, which is a shame because I’d really like to get local stations on my phone.

I actually just built a $4 FM receiver kit that uses the headphones for the antenna.

It was very common in previous decades because it was cheaper and allowed more room in the device (the alternative was the metal “pull to extend” antennas).

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by olliej »

SECProto wrote: post #36
LeoPanthera wrote: post #3

To summarize: If you use a Logitech bluetooth device, it creates enough interference that high-bandwidth products like the Airpods will not function correctly. If you switch the Logitech device to use their "unifying" adapter, which doesn't use bluetooth but a different proprietary wireless protocol, the problem goes away. Logitech acknowledged the problem about six months ago but thus far have deflected any further…

My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

The speakers attach to my computer when I was a teenager produced static when scrolling content of windows, so I would disagree :D

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by tempestn »

dekhn wrote: post #117
KennyBlanken wrote: post #90

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I don't understand how Logitech mice are so popular given how frequently they fail due to switch problems. Everyone I know, from casual users to gamers, has had problems with logitech mouse button failures. Sometimes within months of purchase, even on their high end gaming mice that cost well north of $100, the buttons will stop working or start double-clicking.

I've used Logitech mice for the last 20 years or more and have never had a button fail.

I've had multiple buttons fail on my Logitech mice. It is an issue, even if not everyone experiences it. (And yet I still buy them because they have some of the best ergonomics and buttons layouts I've found in wireless mice.)

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by danmur »

SECProto wrote: post #36
LeoPanthera wrote: post #3

To summarize: If you use a Logitech bluetooth device, it creates enough interference that high-bandwidth products like the Airpods will not function correctly. If you switch the Logitech device to use their "unifying" adapter, which doesn't use bluetooth but a different proprietary wireless protocol, the problem goes away. Logitech acknowledged the problem about six months ago but thus far have deflected any further…

My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

Mine get knocked out by cats running over my desk sometimes, that must count as interference

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by shade23 »

cjdoc29 wrote: post #26

Of all the years I've been reading HackerNews, this is the one that moved me to actually sign up. So I have three Intel-based MacBook Pros but of different model years - 2017 (15in), early-2019 (13in), and mid-2019 (16in). The mid-2019 16in MacBook Pro in combination with Logitech MX Mouse (Mac version) and AirPod Pros cause significant interference on the microphone. The result? I sound like a "robot" on Zoom calls.…

The dongle is compatible with Macs too. Only issue is that you experience some interference if you plug it into a usb-c multi adapter. I resolved this by using a usb extender cable. I've had zero interference since I started using this setup.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by wrycoder »

CobaltFire wrote: post #71
phaedrus wrote: post #68

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Got any tips for eliminating or mitigating the interference? Recently some retiree in my area got himself a new, illegally-high-powered CB radio so he can talk to truckers from his house. It comes through on the wired headphones I wear while working from home.

Find a HAM in your area and ask them to do a "Fox Hunt". Many enjoy hunting people violating the laws and giving a detailed report the the FCC, which has some rather impressive fines that they DO levy.

First, HAM is not an acronym. It’s ham, a friendly joke referring to amateur radio operator.

Second, hams are not vindictive people, and most interference issues are sorted out locally, possibly with support from the ARRL. Some sources of interference can be very hard to find.

The FCC only levies massive fines when their instructions are being ignored. They don’t play games, that’s true.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by SECProto »

noirbot wrote: post #40
SECProto wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

I dunno, if you haven't run into audio or video interference on a wired device, you're lucky or have quality cables. I've definitely picked up radio stations on headphones or had nearby electrical currents induce an annoying buzz in a microphone or distort a video signal.

The only incidence of wired interference I have personally experienced was a ground loop in a car (car cigarette lighter-usb adaptor-usb cable-phone-aux cable-aux input on car stereo). I seem to recall fixing it with a <$5 component that isolated the signal, this was about 10 years ago and other vehicles I've owned haven't had the same issue.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Post by bmitc »

lghh wrote: post #120
bmitc wrote: post #108

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Did those headphones cost more or less than AirPods? Somehow, musicians and producers have worked for decades with wired headphones just fine. Beyerdynamic headphones can go for less than $200 and have a long straight cord or a coiled cord that stays out of the way.

I personally wouldn't want to run in those headphones.

Run at your desk?
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