Any industry insiders know how Cruise is doing compared to Waymo and Zoox in SF? It seems Cruise is hyperfocused on SF.
Not an industry insider, but as an SF resident I tend to see far more Waymo vehicles on the road. A decent number of Cruise vehicles (although maybe they cluster in FiDi/SoMA areas in which case I wouldn't see them). Very few Zoox.
Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Francisco
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Re: Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Francisco
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Public transportation could take the form of government-owned fleets of self-driving electric cars :) I love going directly from point A to B in a private space and I'm not ashamed to admit it. This provides value to my life in the form of comfort and convenience, factors that are so frequently waved away as irrelevant by anyone screaming "car culture". However, it's admittedly obscene that for this privledge, my veh…
> Public transportation could take the form of government-owned fleets of self-driving electric cars It absolutely could not, here simply is not enough space for all those cars. A heavy rail metro line can carry up to 60 thousand passengers per hour per direction, which is the equivalent of a 30 lane highway.
Re: Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Francisco
#83There is currently some kind of geomagnetic storm which is causing a lot of GPS tracks to be offset over the past few days. It's all over the running/cycling forums. Could be related, here's an example: https://old.reddit.com/r/Garmin/comments/vo17e2/the_magnetic...
Edit: Looks like someone ex-Cruise confirmed this ITT
Re: Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Francisco
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am more annoyed at this country's car centric transportation culture than the ride share drivers blocking the bike lane. taxis do this all the time before "ride sharing" was a thing.
Very true! Cities in the US invest much too little in things like bike lanes and public transit which I think leads to the annoyingly car centric nature of US cities. In some sense it’s not the taxi driver or ride share drivers fault they block the road or bike lanes it’s really just the system they are thrown into.
I've progressively gotten more left over the years to the point where I think that certain crime, while it should not be tolerated, should not so much be punished rather than the root cause be fixed.
While I think a lot of overhaul can/should be done to mitigate this specific issue, taxi/ride share drivers are absolutely being incredibly selfish when they do this and it's completely unnecessary.
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#85all of this time and money wasted on driverless cars has been a complete failure. companies and cities should be investing their time into improving public transportation and designing our cities to be more walkable and make alternate modes of transportation more feasible. the US culture of using a car for everyday transportation is fucking insane, wasteful, and contributes to the rising cost of living across the US…
"all of this time and money wasted on driverless cars has been a complete failure." That's quite a stretch. If you think the money would be better spent elsewhere, ok. But to call it a failure is silly. Personally, I think driverless taxis making car ownership less necessary will be a huge plus. It will also make life a lot better for those due to age (too young or too old) or other issues not being able to drive. I…
I usually just tell them to go churn butter and stop driving their own car if that's a real position they have. I don't think I've ever heard a sillier position, ever.
Re: Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Francisco
#86People may get annoyed at cruise for this, but imo it’s still not as bad as the constant blocking of bike lanes and stopping in the middle of the road by human ride share drivers.
I am more annoyed at this country's car centric transportation culture than the ride share drivers blocking the bike lane. taxis do this all the time before "ride sharing" was a thing.
The number of taxis is also capped (medallions), so the number of taxis in bike lanes was limited.
Then TNCs came along, and the number of taxi-like trips exploded, and suddenly there are far, far more drivers blocking bike lanes.
Furhermore, taxis were far better to deal with if you're a cyclist. There is a dedicated police unit for dealing with reports of problems with vehicle condition/cleanliness, operation, billing, etc. If you call in with a problem, a record is kept of such complaints, and a sworn officer investigates. Taxis have to carry a fairly high level of insurance.
And generally speaking, taxis were better for everyone, because: They are subject to random police inspection for condition, cleanliness, and adherence to regulations. They are required to pick up or drop off anywhere in the city, and can be fined if they refuse service from or to a particular area. They are required to have a certain number of handicapped-accessible vehicles and accommodate handicapped service requests.
TNCs, as they are called, have skirted all of this. In my city they turned out to generate a massive number of excess car trips - causing a huge increase in pollution and congestion.
Re: Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Francisco
#87There is currently some kind of geomagnetic storm which is causing a lot of GPS tracks to be offset over the past few days. It's all over the running/cycling forums. Could be related, here's an example: https://old.reddit.com/r/Garmin/comments/vo17e2/the_magnetic...
It is worth noting however that the size, power consumption and antenna precision of a watch-sized or bicycle computer size GPS(+glonass, Galileo, beidou, qzss) receiver is considerably smaller than what should be in these vehicles. I have not seen any mention of GPS service degradation in hobbyist drone enthusiast groups over the last week, some of whom use quite small GPS modules with serial connection to the fligh…
EDIT: Appears GPS/IMU/LIDAR is sufficient, my mistake. TIL.
Re: Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Francisco
#88It looks like a strike action by the AI drivers.
[1] https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-inte...
Re: Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Francisco
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Only while parked. And they never update "themselves" except in rare specific circumstances. They have to be told to update by the owner.
Except for when Tesla find out you've bought it 2nd hand, and revoke the FSD... (Or, you know, when you get into a Twitter shitslinging match with Elon...)