Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods
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Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods
#82To summarize: If you use a Logitech bluetooth device, it creates enough interference that high-bandwidth products like the Airpods will not function correctly. If you switch the Logitech device to use their "unifying" adapter, which doesn't use bluetooth but a different proprietary wireless protocol, the problem goes away. Logitech acknowledged the problem about six months ago but thus far have deflected any further…
Is this a flaw/weakness in the Bluetooth spec, or is one of these products misbehaving in a way that means it should have its Bluetooth qualification revoked?
Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods
#83I encourage only US owners of both the defective Logitech products and of AirPods, to write a complaint to the FCC reporting the problem as you experience it and asking the FCC to respond. https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/requests/new (Interference; Unlicensed.)
Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods
#84I bought an MX Master 3 for Mac mouse for my Silicon Mac Mini about a year and a half ago but quickly shelved it because the cursor would frequently make irritating little jumps. I replaced it with an Apple Magic Touchpad (I don't love the Magic Mouse) because, at least at the time, I was under the impression that the jumpiness was due to a OS-level bug affecting all non-Apple mice. I did have Airpods at the time but I don't recall if I ever attempted to use them alongside the Logitech mouse.
The timing is fortuitous because, on a whim last night, I got my MX Master 3 out of storage and put it on a charger. I figured that, with ~18 months of macOS updates, perhaps it'll work with my Mac Mini on bluetooth or using the Logi Bolt USB adapter, which I don't own yet (I guess the Bolt is different from the Unifying Receiver... although irritatingly neither comes in USB-C).
I'm intrigued by the hypothesis that Logitech is remaining quiet because their products may be violating FCC rules, specifically, part 15 of the FCC rules: "this device may not cause harmful interference". If I can replicate the AirPods issue, or if I see some other weird behavior with the Logitech mouse, I might just break out my HackRF, YARD Stick One, or Ubertooth One. I'm a total noob at radiofrequency stuff, and I'm only slightly less of a noob with running specialty software, but I wonder if I can spot some unexpected RF emissions.
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#85Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
I dunno, if you haven't run into audio or video interference on a wired device, you're lucky or have quality cables. I've definitely picked up radio stations on headphones or had nearby electrical currents induce an annoying buzz in a microphone or distort a video signal.
> I've definitely picked up radio stations on headphones Not exactly the same, but makes me reminisce the days of the iPod nano. It offered FM radio using the headphone cables as an antenna. I haven’t seen that supported anywhere since, which is a shame because I’d really like to get local stations on my phone.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoG/comments/u2dvvp/any_current_m...
Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I dunno, if you haven't run into audio or video interference on a wired device, you're lucky or have quality cables. I've definitely picked up radio stations on headphones or had nearby electrical currents induce an annoying buzz in a microphone or distort a video signal.
> I've definitely picked up radio stations on headphones Not exactly the same, but makes me reminisce the days of the iPod nano. It offered FM radio using the headphone cables as an antenna. I haven’t seen that supported anywhere since, which is a shame because I’d really like to get local stations on my phone.
Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods
#88To summarize: If you use a Logitech bluetooth device, it creates enough interference that high-bandwidth products like the Airpods will not function correctly. If you switch the Logitech device to use their "unifying" adapter, which doesn't use bluetooth but a different proprietary wireless protocol, the problem goes away. Logitech acknowledged the problem about six months ago but thus far have deflected any further…
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#89Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods
#90To summarize: If you use a Logitech bluetooth device, it creates enough interference that high-bandwidth products like the Airpods will not function correctly. If you switch the Logitech device to use their "unifying" adapter, which doesn't use bluetooth but a different proprietary wireless protocol, the problem goes away. Logitech acknowledged the problem about six months ago but thus far have deflected any further…
I've also found that if I used the Logitech "unifying" adapter, I _still_ had significant 2.4Ghz spectrum interference -- the Logitech adapter was causing my bluetooth headset (also in the 2.4Ghz spectrum) to have significant connectivity issues, and was also causing interference with some game controllers that operated on the 2.4Ghz spectrum in the same room. The Logitech devices connected to that dongle (an MX Mast…
Everyone I know, from casual users to gamers, has had problems with logitech mouse button failures. Sometimes within months of purchase, even on their high end gaming mice that cost well north of $100, the buttons will stop working or start double-clicking.