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Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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To summarize: If you use a Logitech bluetooth device, it creates enough interference that high-bandwidth products like the Airpods will not function correctly. If you switch the Logitech device to use their "unifying" adapter, which doesn't use bluetooth but a different proprietary wireless protocol, the problem goes away. Logitech acknowledged the problem about six months ago but thus far have deflected any further…

My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

That just means you're not running enough power through them ;)

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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It's not just Logitech's use of bluetooth. My Airpods also caused me lose wifi connectivity on my Macbook when using 2.4Ghz wifi (802.11n to an old Buffalo WZR-HP-AG300H/WZR-600DHP running OpenWRT [1]). The issue only happened when using the airpods, and only when using the 2.4Ghz network. Switching to 5ghz solved the issue, and I've since switched to wired. I was kind of stunned that Apple's own wifi was incompatibl…

> [1] while I'm at it, anyone have a recommendation for a modern access point that can run OpenWRT with Wifi 5 (ac) or Wifi 6 (ax)?

I have a Linksys EA8300 with openwrt installed. It was simple to flash and works reliably. It supports 802.11ac.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s annoying they still don’t make a usb-c unifying receiver.

Also annoying that the unifying receiver doesn't work with a Thunderbolt dock. I tried using it for a while and got a lot of lag and stuttering. It was really bad. So now I have a Thunderbolt dock that everything else uses, and a single USB-C to USB-A adapter hanging off the laptop just for the precious unifying receiver. I'd be less annoyed if it was USB-C plugged in directly, but still not happy. Previously I used…

Yeah, I have had the same issue with my jabra headset for years on a cal digit TS3. It goes away if I plug it into a separate USB port on the MacBook. My guess as to the problem is the bandwidth allocation and prioritization on the thunderbolt.

But that’s a wild ass guess.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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To summarize: If you use a Logitech bluetooth device, it creates enough interference that high-bandwidth products like the Airpods will not function correctly. If you switch the Logitech device to use their "unifying" adapter, which doesn't use bluetooth but a different proprietary wireless protocol, the problem goes away. Logitech acknowledged the problem about six months ago but thus far have deflected any further…

My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

Having just spent several hundred $ to eliminate EMI from my audio setup, I wish it were true :')

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're probably staying silent because here in Canada at least, this could be violating federal laws. I must assume this is also true of the USA, which is usually quite comparable in these areas.

> They're probably staying silent because here in Canada at least, this could be violating federal laws. Could you elaborate?

I think he's referring to some Canadian equivalent to the "this device may not cause harmful interference" FCC warning label we have on wireless devices.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Of all the years I've been reading HackerNews, this is the one that moved me to actually sign up. So I have three Intel-based MacBook Pros but of different model years - 2017 (15in), early-2019 (13in), and mid-2019 (16in). The mid-2019 16in MacBook Pro in combination with Logitech MX Mouse (Mac version) and AirPod Pros cause significant interference on the microphone. The result? I sound like a "robot" on Zoom calls.…

To add on here: Same issues. Then it started impacting other items I had.

In the beginning, I only had the MX (Mac Specific) mouse, and the problem did not happen very often. On occasion, but not too bad. After one of the OS updates, it was a non-stop issue. Disabling the auto switching (between Apple devices) helped a little.

Later, I also bought the MX Keys (Mac Specific) keyboard. I started having issues with a non-Apple headset on/off out of the blue. I could never use my AirPods with my laptop for anything other than listening to music. I tried everything from killing Bluetooth pref, to resetting my AirPods.

What finally solved it? I deleted all Logitech Devices from my laptop. Reset all Bluetooth settings. Re-paired my AirPods. I have not had a single problem in audio quality for 3 months now.

My Logitech devices are just sitting off to the side collecting dust now.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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It's not just Logitech's use of bluetooth. My Airpods also caused me lose wifi connectivity on my Macbook when using 2.4Ghz wifi (802.11n to an old Buffalo WZR-HP-AG300H/WZR-600DHP running OpenWRT [1]). The issue only happened when using the airpods, and only when using the 2.4Ghz network. Switching to 5ghz solved the issue, and I've since switched to wired. I was kind of stunned that Apple's own wifi was incompatibl…

Extra rant: I can't find my favorite keyboard, the MS Sculpt, in wired version, and have already had to replace it once due to, I suspect, wireless issues. I like its ergo layout, key feel, and key travel distance [1]. I just bought a new one after the last one would become unreliable on keypresses, and I can't shake the feeling that it was just wireless performance issue, not actual key detection issue. There appear…

I had similar issues with the MS Sculpt. I solved them by putting the USB dongle on an extension cord and locating it closer to the keyboard. I think it just has a weak radio.

Re: Logitech MX Products are incompatible with AirPods

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favourite part about wires is that there's never interference or poor connectivity. Aux headphones, ethernet cables, wired mouse and keyboard - all so much more painless.

Having just spent several hundred $ to eliminate EMI from my audio setup, I wish it were true :')

Are you sure it was EMI and not ground loop?
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