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Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

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It baffles me this kind of language and name calling appears on HN. Let's discuss the matter and hand and refrain from ad hominem attacks, it serves no purpose.

Counterpoint: no. This article was written in bad faith and I refuse to elevate it to the level of "intellectual discussion".

Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

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> Is it really so hard to see that the continued usage of "black = bad, white = good" could be problematic?

Why could it be problematic? That association exists in every culture and language. If you know that and you still hate it, the optimal solution would be not to call Europeans/Caucasians "white" and Africans/Negroids "black." It's as simple as that. Why do you want to keep calling people by color?

Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

#24
> Some radical people have suddenly started to think blacklist and whitelist are racially insensitive. Are they really racist words? The answer is a no.

In my books, these people aren't "radical", they're simply "wrong".

Calling them "radical" gives the impression that being mindful about the language we choose to accept socially is in general radical. Of course it isn't.

Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

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It baffles me this kind of language and name calling appears on HN. Let's discuss the matter and hand and refrain from ad hominem attacks, it serves no purpose.

Counterpoint: no. This article was written in bad faith and I refuse to elevate it to the level of "intellectual discussion".

In which case the link should be flagged, and any discussion about it is off-topic and inappropriate by definition.

Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

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It's not, but insisting on using it even though there are perfectly fine alternatives and you know that there's a sizeable chunk of people that considers it racist is just being an asshole.

If you let the minority dictate your life it's gonna cause trouble. What if nazis start saying that they love "mainline" branch because it's meinline and that reminds them of Adolf. Ok lets remove mainline.

Remember the whole ordeal with the "ok" hand sign? That's what happens when you let the minority control you, and that wasn't even a real case of racism.

Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

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> Some radical people have suddenly started to think blacklist and whitelist are racially insensitive. Are they really racist words? The answer is a no. In my books, these people aren't "radical", they're simply "wrong". Calling them "radical" gives the impression that being mindful about the language we choose to accept socially is in general radical. Of course it isn't.

Talking about words and their meaning, "radical" comes from the latin for root, so a true radical should get to the bottom of things, work from first principles...

Let's have a go!

It is dark at night, and black is dark. The one thing that's clear is "white" human skin ain't white, and "black" ain't black either. So... saying black or white to categorize any member of the human race is incorrect, using "blacklist" for something that can't see the light is kinda correct.

Re: Blacklist is not a racist word

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> Is it really so hard to see that the continued usage of "black = bad, white = good" could be problematic? Why could it be problematic? That association exists in every culture and language. If you know that and you still hate it, the optimal solution would be not to call Europeans/Caucasians "white" and Africans/Negroids "black." It's as simple as that. Why do you want to keep calling people by color?

The book and movie "a dry white season" beg to differ. From an African perspective I guess it is totally valid that white is the colour of death, dessicated bones baked by the sun, cleaned by the wind.
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