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Re: Show HN: Movably – Protect your health, move more while you work

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Your desk and your chair need a power outlet nowadays. What a time to be alive! Looks interesting. Definitely too expensive for my personal use. I hope I'll get to test it one day. Also, there are pictures on the website of people having quite non ergonomic setups. I know the focus is the chair but it's a weird contrast of a high tech ergonomic solution next to an obvious, bad work setup choices (example being the sl…

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Re: Show HN: Movably – Protect your health, move more while you work

#12
Um, the website is making a lot of claims and saying "there are studies". I would like to see the links to all studies to support made claims.

"Proven by Science Recent study results prove that Movably is a highly effective solution. All participants reported no back discomfort. Using Movably outperformed standing and ergonomic chairs."

Link to study? Highly effective solution to what? Back pain? Leg pain? Participants reported no back discomfort vs control who did report back discomfort using other chairs or standing?

Lack of arm support.

There is an image of a male sitting on the chair. The position IS NOT ERGONOMIC AT ALL, here are the issues:

-He is forced to look down, this will result in neck pain.

-The monitor should be at eye level or just below it about arm length away.

-His arms are pressing against the desk and hands are above the elbows.

This all very basic computer work ergonomics. All this work on this product and 0 actual science on the page about ergonomics.

There is a claim, "Sitting is the new smoking".....I mean you are out of your mind.

From Mayo clinic, "Any extended sitting — such as at a desk, behind a wheel or in front of a screen — can be harmful. An analysis of 13 studies of sitting time and activity levels found that those who sat for more than eight hours a day with no physical activity had a risk of dying similar to the risks of dying posed by obesity and smoking. However, unlike some other studies, this analysis of data from more than 1 million people found that 60 to 75 minutes of moderately intense physical activity a day countered the effects of too much sitting. Another study found that sitting time contributed little to mortality for people who were most active."

Link to source: https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/adult-health/ex...

The website stinks of hyper marketing to sell an overpriced product.

EDIT: The only positive comments here so far are from users with 2 hour old accounts. OP decides to respond to POSITIVE comments from the new account but not to most upvoted negative comment. Yikes.

Re: Show HN: Movably – Protect your health, move more while you work

#14
Nah. Give me a standing desk that I can lower all the way down to a squat. Scratch that: just give me a wooden box to squat on. Where will I put that box, though? I don’t know…

(Warning: rant incoming)

It’s interesting that this “sitting is [literally] the new smoking” study-shows movement has shown how limited ergonomic tools are. Maybe some ergonomic tools are just a grift to paper over the inherent defiencies of office work.[1] Think about it:

1. People get health problems from working in an office

2. Ergo company steps in to let the managers buy ergonomic equipment

3. Ergo company makes a pretty penny

4. The company behind the office just have to spend a little more money on office equipment rather than rethink the whole structure of their work environment. (Does it work? Well, the important thing is that they made an effort)

5. Win-win

So anyway. How come the bodies of (one of) the smartest species on Earth are so fragile that it can’t deal with full-time thinking-work?[2] And how can we ever make up for it when we are contractually obligated to do keyboard-clacking/mouse-clicking/meeting-sitting for eight hours a day?

1. Better remember to look at a far-away object every twenty minutes in order to combat screen/reading-induced myopia

2. Try to (as often as possible) vary your positions without interrupting your own concentration on your task (how?)

3. Better remember to schedule some movement ritual in order to not be the new “smoker”

4. Better try to not look like a try-hard idiot as you do all your anti-sedentary/anti-myopia exercises in the middle of your open office which even has (for insult-to-injury) glass walls separating it from the common hallway

5. Honestly, even with all the fidgeting and practicing the-best-positions-is-the-next-one at work, you will have to dedicate a lot of time off-work for that old school rigorous exercise (remember the eighties when that was all it took? Supposedly)

One problem might be that companies are stupid (see: open office). But it seems more fundamental than that. How are you even supposed to do knowledge work without committing sins of sedentary?

1. Maybe a small treadmill? Could work for reading tasks or meetings. But what about your gait when you are typing and using the mouse? I’ve heard that that gets awkward

2. Memorize the codebase and apply changes in your mind while you go for an outdoor hike? What kind of outdoorsy savant could pull that off?

[1] Key word “some”. I know that some people swear by certain ergo alternatives.

[2] I know, I know. There is no “why” to evolution. We just evolved in a completely different environment. Still makes me upset though.

Re: Show HN: Movably – Protect your health, move more while you work

#15
I literally just sit on the floor, back resting up against my couch. I have a round coffee table where I can easily put my knees, legs under when needed.

I used to have back and wrist issues, tried standing desk, it definitely helped, but the sitting position on the floor is so much better. No back or wrist issues

Re: Show HN: Movably – Protect your health, move more while you work

#16

I literally just sit on the floor, back resting up against my couch. I have a round coffee table where I can easily put my knees, legs under when needed. I used to have back and wrist issues, tried standing desk, it definitely helped, but the sitting position on the floor is so much better. No back or wrist issues

Could you please elaborate on how you sit. Do you have different positions? Do you spread your legs or alternate ...etc

Re: Show HN: Movably – Protect your health, move more while you work

#17
Another solved market that needs 'redefining' with a smart whotsit at 2-4x the price of existing products that do the same thing that actually have a proven history.

Varier chairs (various) and the move stool HAG Capisco range Muvman stool

Hell, you can buy a saddle seat designed to augment any office desk for $100 that will also be 'backed by studies'

And failing that a simple balance ball with give you so much.

This is an office Peloton for people desperate to burn through their startup capital.

Re: Show HN: Movably – Protect your health, move more while you work

#18
post #16

I literally just sit on the floor, back resting up against my couch. I have a round coffee table where I can easily put my knees, legs under when needed. I used to have back and wrist issues, tried standing desk, it definitely helped, but the sitting position on the floor is so much better. No back or wrist issues

Could you please elaborate on how you sit. Do you have different positions? Do you spread your legs or alternate ...etc

I switch around positions a lot. Everything from Indian style, to butt on floor one knee up, sometimes knees on floor, butt sitting on my feet. Sometimes leaning back on the couch.

One other thing that has had a huge impact is that I cut a piece of foam roller about 10 inches wide and I roll my back on it 2-3 times per day, sometimes I just lay on it and just reverse stretch my back, and also massage my neck and shoulders with it. That might even be why I don’t have back pain anymore (Important not to roll it on your lower back with all your weight on it, just keep it to the upper part of your back.)

Re: Show HN: Movably – Protect your health, move more while you work

#20
This sounds crazy and slightly off topic, but the banner that says "proven by science with University of Waterloo" gives me hesitation instead of trust. Most wearable/hardware startups from Waterloo end up being VC money grabs that fail to deliver.
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