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Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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I'm really bummed to see so much shade in this thread. I didn't even know throat mics were a thing and I learned a lot from the linked post.

> People can hear me gulp

Is it weird I'd have liked to hear a clip of this? Does it sound like the "gulp" noise from a cartoon? Or just like a regular old swallow? I have so many questions...

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have not, and now I have a new thing to look into, already firing up the browser tabs. Thanks! :)

I have a pair of bone conducting audio 'headphones', aftershokz, and while I avoid using them for music listening, they handle voice audio really well and you still have full access to the sounds around you. I use them for calls and podcasts when I need to have situational awareness like biking or going for a run. I stress they are not for audiophiles for music though, the sound loses a lot of depth and richness. Cav…

I got one too and found out that the audio isn't actually bad.... If you plug up your ears. Is kinda funny how much better it sounds from basically putting your fingers into your ears

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

#233
We had them in the military and we preferred the boom mics. Throat mics, the exact ones pictured, did not pick up low-talking or whispering, which is a large amount of pre-contact traffic.

The new thing the DOD has spent an UNGODLY amount of time and money on is called TCAPS. They were even worse. They're noise-canceling earbuds with a bone-conducting microphone that sits inside of your ear.

Sounds great - but when you start shooting and moving (and pouring sweat) the earbuds slip out slightly, breaking contact with your ear. Every. Damn. Time. And you can't feel it happen. The way you find out is you key up to speak and no one responds to you. All anyone hears is dead air. After a while someone figures it out and says "last station, check your mic". They went straight into the pile of useless "good idea fairy" nonsense we keep in the arms room, only pulling it out for inventories. And there is a lot if that. We have monocular eye pieces in there that have a heads-up display. Some nerd thought they would be a good idea. Put it on an actual fighter and it is of no added benefit.

The only headset I have used that consistently works are Peltor COMTACs and their recent competitors. Over-the-ear noise cancelling ear muffs with a boom mike. Never had a problem with wind noise. Biggest issue was the mike being pulled away from your mouth when it gets snagged, or people who think they need to yell into the mike. They also had a compatibility issue with PRC-119Fs/ASIPs/RT-1523s where you need to keep the volume setting at 8 or below otherwise you get a high pitched squeal when you key up and no traffic goes out.

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

#234
post #164

I'm curious as to why the author even thought that a throat mic would have good audio quality. Throat mics are designed for loud, high intensity situations. For the use case of a throat mic, "good audio quality" means the receiver can actually understand what you're saying, something that is pretty easy to achieve in a home office environment. And I'm sure that it's possible to make a throat mic that has great audio…

> Throat mics are designed for loud, high intensity situations. For the use case of a throat mic, "good audio quality" means the receiver can actually understand what you're saying, something that is pretty easy to achieve in a home office environment. I've only configured a handful of throat mics, but they actually are designed to be used when you're speaking at a whisper. That's one of the main features, you're not…

Ours could not pick up whispering.

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

#235

I went down this path once. For normal life everything about throat mikes is awful: the sound quality, discomfort, difficult to get positioned correctly, and get to transmit your swallowing sounds to the world.

I should have added that to my post - throat mikes are very uncomfortable. The band would also grab stubble so sometimes when I would turn my head I would get a nice sting as it tugged on a hair.

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

#237

I went down this path once. For normal life everything about throat mikes is awful: the sound quality, discomfort, difficult to get positioned correctly, and get to transmit your swallowing sounds to the world.

But what if it had bluetooth though? There's a kickstarter in here, I know it! I just need someone on HN that is crazy about hardware to see this post.

Bluetooth is a good idea, but you need to be wary of the emissions you're relying on for critical comms. If you have a whole formation using a piece of the spectrum, that piece of the spectrum is now a target.
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