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Re: The most expensive coding font for free?

#101

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Dude, you are distrustful... it's not the case: I'm at the 50% of the work with PragmataPro, anyone can realize it just by looking at the screenshots. If I wanted to escape with the loot I would not be so stupid to draw about 1600 glyphs spending 3 years of my life. Revenue from sales of licenses are not sufficient to cover even 10% of the time I used to arrive here. Then came the piracy that has stopped the sales. M…

I mentioned you offer of a discounted license for all contributors if the font isn't open-sourced, and that offer is explicitly stated on the project page. I'm not doubting your trustworthiness at all! I believe I've been fair in evaluating your decision to sell on IndieGogo instead of Kickstarter. At the same time, you're going to need 22,000 contributions of $10 to open-source your font. That's a non-trivial number…

> I believe I've been fair in evaluating your decision to sell on IndieGogo instead of Kickstarter.

Kickstarter is not an option for us Italians. It's US only. See http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/creating%20a%20project#S...

Re: The most expensive coding font for free?

#103
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This is obviously personal preference and opinion and all of that, but that's the whole point of discussion, so: if (something) { something(); } else { something_else(); } vs. if (something) { something(); } else { something_else(); } To me, the first one is chaotic. It's not so bad like that, but throw in a loop (as well as the external function declaration) and it's a complete mess. The second one is orderly. Block…

I feel perhaps you are missing my point -- you are talking about block separation and vertical space, I am talking about grouping of logical units. I agree with your points for functions, (most)loops, switches, and so in, but for if/else try/catch/finally do/while an other multiblock statements, I think it helps to have some convention to group them, other than indent level. The blocks depend on each other, not just…

I follow Python's example for this.

    if (...) {
      ...
    } else if (...) {
      ...
    }
corresponds to

    if ... :
      ...
    else if ... :
      ...
not

    if ... :
      ...
    
    else if ... :
      ...

Re: The most expensive coding font for free?

#104

Does anybody have any data on how many people program in greek, cyrillic, or hebrew characters? I suspect that 90% of programs that are out there could be written with 10% of the glyphs that he is proposing to hand hint. Why not focus on those and reduce the price accordingly?

There are, for example, comments and string literals, which may be non-english. Also, people use monospaced fonts for all kinds of things aside from programming (for example, my bash spits out errors in cyrillic). And if I pay for a font, I would expect to be able to use it everywhere.

Re: The most expensive coding font for free?

#107

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I'd be considering avoidance too if I had to give just under half of everything I make to the government. *edit And there are perfectly legal ways to reduce your tax burden. The point I'm laboring so hard to make here is that it's an absurd tax rate.

Indeed. And then you'd gladly take advantage of the social safety net if you became unemployed, or upon retirement, and of the roads the government built, and of the safety the police provides, etc. Not paying taxes is great if you don't cost the government anything. All of a sudden, though, when you want the services but don't want to pay for them, you become the leech that people keep accusing the poor of being. Yo…

It seems to me that the 43% rate is excessive on something that, as others have pointed out, is not a large income ($96,000 over 4 years -> $24k/year) - I don't know of any country where you'd pay that tax rate so soon. I assume this would happen if he gets all the money in one hit - so to me, it's not really "tax evasion" in the nasty sense to set up a company etc such that he pays tax on 4 years of $24k rather than one year of $96k. And personally, I'd find it more attractive if slightly less of the money wasn't going to go to the Italian government.

(I am not actually an expert in matters of the Italian tax system, so I guess it's possible that they all pay 43% tax on all income, although goodness knows how the country could be in such dire straits if that's the case)

Re: The most expensive coding font for free?

#108

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Indeed. And then you'd gladly take advantage of the social safety net if you became unemployed, or upon retirement, and of the roads the government built, and of the safety the police provides, etc. Not paying taxes is great if you don't cost the government anything. All of a sudden, though, when you want the services but don't want to pay for them, you become the leech that people keep accusing the poor of being. Yo…

It seems to me that the 43% rate is excessive on something that, as others have pointed out, is not a large income ($96,000 over 4 years -> $24k/year) - I don't know of any country where you'd pay that tax rate so soon. I assume this would happen if he gets all the money in one hit - so to me, it's not really "tax evasion" in the nasty sense to set up a company etc such that he pays tax on 4 years of $24k rather than…

Oh, absolutely. I was referring to “real” tax evasion. When there is a clear way provided to pay less taxes, that's not really evasion (in my mind).

Re: The most expensive coding font for free?

#109
post #101

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I mentioned you offer of a discounted license for all contributors if the font isn't open-sourced, and that offer is explicitly stated on the project page. I'm not doubting your trustworthiness at all! I believe I've been fair in evaluating your decision to sell on IndieGogo instead of Kickstarter. At the same time, you're going to need 22,000 contributions of $10 to open-source your font. That's a non-trivial number…

> I believe I've been fair in evaluating your decision to sell on IndieGogo instead of Kickstarter. Kickstarter is not an option for us Italians. It's US only. See http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/creating%20a%20project#S...

I've seen a couple or projects led by Italians on Kickstarter ...

Re: The most expensive coding font for free?

#110

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Indeed. And then you'd gladly take advantage of the social safety net if you became unemployed, or upon retirement, and of the roads the government built, and of the safety the police provides, etc. Not paying taxes is great if you don't cost the government anything. All of a sudden, though, when you want the services but don't want to pay for them, you become the leech that people keep accusing the poor of being. Yo…

The point I was trying to make is that giving half of everything to the government is rather unnecessary in order to have a "social safety net". The things you mentioned, unemployment, retirement, roads, police, etc, don't require giving up half my income. And guess what? People recognize that. And when people think they're being jerked around..

Honestly? You'd have to show me the spreadsheets to prove that assertion. Not that the current system in any country is likely to be 100% efficient, mind you, but I suspect it's more efficient than you give it credit for. That said, that's hand-waving in both directions. I have no numbers to support my own suspicions, either.

Also keep in mind that it isn't half of everything. These systems are typically progressive, so it's likely because this will be a large sum ($220,000) all at once that the tax rate is that high.

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