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Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by sgtnoodle »

devonallie wrote: post #55

Messing with Bluetooth and Arch? Are you trying to hurt yourself? I also use Arch btw.

One you follow the fourteen step instructions, it's as reliable as any non-Android Linux Bluetooth stack. I've been using Arch at home for half a decade now, and it's been absolutely boring in a good way.

I had a glitch plaguing me for a week on my work laptop. The left mouse click would get stuck. It turns out a Bluetooth mouse was powered on in my backpack! At least Ubuntu was reliably connecting with it...

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by Forgeties79 »

hardwaresofton wrote: post #118
remram wrote: post #66

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The TLDR says: > Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone Seems like a claim to me!

Yep, lemme weaken that real quick -- I was thinking a really old kinda shitty one, technically musician grade gear is standalone and wired...

Yeah I was looking over at my SM7b on my desk and considering writing something up, but decided against it. I was pretty sure you weren’t being that literal!

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by swader999 »

ramraj07 wrote: post #67
nend wrote: post #54

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One of the most Hacker News comments every written. A dismissive comment about a diy home project because you'd rather be critical of someone else than build something yourself.

This isn’t a Lego ad, no brownie points for just building random things. I mean build them if you want but don’t judge others because they don’t want to?

I'd disagree a bit. There's merit in building something as a way to learn. Kind of a core tenant of hacking. Take it apart, put it back together etc. Going farther with your curiosity than typical.

This idea might be useful for skiing. I do course control for kids ski races and you want to hold the skier in the gate when another crashes further down the course. Radio coms have to be very tight and clear. Wind and dealing with the elements and trying to push the mic button with gloves on is a pita. Maybe there's ideas here that could help. Makes me think at the very least.

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by falcolas »

drath wrote: post #75
hardwaresofton wrote: post #56

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> I'm curious as to why the author even thought that a throat mic would have good audio quality. Throat mics are designed for loud, high intensity situations. For the use case of a throat mic, "good audio quality" means the receiver can actually understand what you're saying, something that is pretty easy to achieve in a home office environment. The good audio quality I thought would come from it being viable in a "l…

Could you provide samples? Maybe it works for you in particular, but all the throat mic tests I've seen on youtube have absolutely abysmal sound quality.

The position of the mic on your throat changes how it sounds. The further away from your throat, the better (more natural) the sound, but the more ambient noise you get because the signal is lower. If you're right over the throat, the noise issue goes away, but you lose the qualities of your voice that the mouth adds.

In general, you'll get better sound from something like an Antlion mic with its passive rejection from a built-in omnidirectional mic opposite the cardiod mic pointed at your mouth.

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by hardwaresofton »

dangus wrote: post #72
antiterra wrote: post #26

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It definitely reads as a personal project and not one claiming a superior solution (“People can hear me gulp”)

I disagree, the article is proclaiming them to be a good solution: > Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone (if that’s what you are using) I'll go as far to say that the author is making a completely false claim here and does the reader a disservice by not even attempting to back up this claim with a recording. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5_eI9ungGE&t=228s I'll just go ahead and say it…

> I'll go as far to say that the author is making a completely false claim here and does the reader a disservice by not even attempting to back up this claim with a recording.

Hey you're right that was a pretty wild claim so I softened it -- I had a very specific (shitty, old) microphone in mind when I wrote that, but the article now has an audio sample, and a reworked tl;dr (it will be live in like... > The author doesn't seem to know that dynamic microphones only capture sounds directly in front of them, which makes them ideal for environments where there is background noise, especially if the background noise comes from further away.

I certainly didn't know that, TIL!

Thanks for that link too, those are some very good mics, and definitely not what I meant to even suggest that a throat mic was better than!

> Antlion ModMic Wireless

https://antlionaudio.com/blogs/news/introducing-modmic-wirel...

Interesting, neve rheard of this before! I used to have a Corsair VOID that worked well, but this going anywhere is pretty nice -- could be used on helmets or other things.

I don't run a mac so can't do the other stuff, but thanks for the suggestions, hopefully someone else can use them. Apple sure does get consumer hardware correct a lot, don't they.

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by robga »

bitcurious wrote: post #49

Question for the microphone specialists here: what's your recommendation for the best pro-sounding microphone which can stay off camera? I think I'm looking for something direction with a ~2.5 foot sweet spot.

+1 to the Ask. I had a trawl across HN for this just yesterday without great success. There are a couple of podcast-popular mics which sound good but not if you are more than a foot away.

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by priprifoo »

dom96 wrote: post #57
antiterra wrote: post #26

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It definitely reads as a personal project and not one claiming a superior solution (“People can hear me gulp”)

> People can hear me gulp it's already bad enough hearing people slurping/gulping with normal mics, this mic sounds horrible.

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Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by mjard »

csee wrote: post #117
jaywalk wrote: post #98

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I've worn Shure SE215s for 4+ hours at a time countless times for professional broadcasts. I found them to be very comfortable, and actually do use them at home for conferencing. It's definitely a personal preference thing, although I'm sure the more expensive ones are even more comfortable.

How do these IEMs with their passive seal compare to active noise cancelling headphones for the purposes of unwanted noise attenuation

Pretty good, I use Shure IEMs to block wind noise on motorcycle rides and having access to podcasts/audiobooks are a nice bonus when slogging down freeways. I can still hear car engines and sirens, but it removes the wind buffeting in my helmet that really drains you (and damages your hearing) on a long ride.

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by falcolas »

lvncelot wrote: post #112
dom96 wrote: post #57

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> People can hear me gulp it's already bad enough hearing people slurping/gulping with normal mics, this mic sounds horrible.

On the other hand, it's further away from the lips so maybe there's less mouth sounds.

Mouth noises can be (largely, not completely) trained out:

- Don't rest your tongue on the roof of your mouth

- Don't close your lips between words/sentences

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by [deleted] »

Clubber wrote: post #89
dangus wrote: post #72

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I disagree, the article is proclaiming them to be a good solution: > Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone (if that’s what you are using) I'll go as far to say that the author is making a completely false claim here and does the reader a disservice by not even attempting to back up this claim with a recording. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5_eI9ungGE&t=228s I'll just go ahead and say it…

>> Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone (if that’s what you are using) >I'll go as far to say that the author is making a completely false claim It's an opinion, they are neither true nor false. It's fair to disagree with it though. Tomatoes are the best vegetable. Opinion. I'm sure I'll get plenty of disagreements and even some reminding me that a tomato is actually a fruit.

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