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Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by hardwaresofton »

spockz wrote: post #29
hnbad wrote: post #17

> People can hear me gulp That's one of the biggest reasons you don't see them in business settings apart from the tacticool tackiness. The point of a good microphone is not just to clearly hear the voice and to cancel out outside noise but also not to pick up the meat sounds. Especially when using headphones, other people don't want to hear your meat sounds. They don't want to be constantly reminded that you're made…

I’m using a good headset/microphone setup + krisp.Ai and the result is amazing. Good clear voice and krisp removes all the noise. I can even eat chips without it being transmitted.

Thanks for pointing out krisp.ai -- was wondering how it was possible so many youtubers complain about not using A/C while streaming to avoid noise... Does everyone simply not know about krisp.ai?

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by lvncelot »

dom96 wrote: post #57
antiterra wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It definitely reads as a personal project and not one claiming a superior solution (“People can hear me gulp”)

> People can hear me gulp it's already bad enough hearing people slurping/gulping with normal mics, this mic sounds horrible.

On the other hand, it's further away from the lips so maybe there's less mouth sounds.

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by digitallyfree »

hardwaresofton wrote: post #73
javajosh wrote: post #25

I should write up my solution using a parabolic dish that focuses sound from a relatively small zone where my head (usually) is, into a good cheap mic. You get good isolation (even from keyboard sounds) requires nothing on your head or throat, and ... physics! (You just need to accept a big dish in your field of view, and you also can't pace, walk around, as with bluetooth solutions.)

This actually sounds sick :) You know what is crazy, those microphone guns[0] mics might actually be amazing. I know that people (youtubers) actually have problems with being able to turn their A/Cs on because of the background noise... Rather than trying to remove that noise with AI/post processing or turning the A/C off maybe people should be looking into microphone guns. [0] https://www.amazon.com/Sony-ECMGZ1M-Zoo…

Marketing has pushed a lot of Youtubers towards LDCs like the Blue Yeti, which are great in a studio setting but pick up lots of background noise. For some reason everyone considers the SM7B as the way around that (despite being overkill and overpriced for their applications), which is a broadcast dynamic. Dynamics can handle fan noise and busy streets no problem.

There are less expensive handheld dynamics which are suitable for Youtubers, like the SM58 (very few of them use that, but it's ubiquitious in live sound and with processing can sound very decent). Sennheiser and AKG also make good stuff. If those don't provide enough isolation there are ENG dynamics that are designed to handle interviews in the middle of loud protests and such.

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by ramraj07 »

Timpy wrote: post #93
ramraj07 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn’t a Lego ad, no brownie points for just building random things. I mean build them if you want but don’t judge others because they don’t want to?

>no brownie points for just building random things That's kind of what hackers do though isn't it?

Hackers hack things up. That’s not always about building, unless you have an extremely loose definition of building. Anyways even hackers need critics.

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by hardwaresofton »

hnbad wrote: post #17

> People can hear me gulp That's one of the biggest reasons you don't see them in business settings apart from the tacticool tackiness. The point of a good microphone is not just to clearly hear the voice and to cancel out outside noise but also not to pick up the meat sounds. Especially when using headphones, other people don't want to hear your meat sounds. They don't want to be constantly reminded that you're made…

> Especially when using headphones, other people don't want to hear your meat sounds. They don't want to be constantly reminded that you're made of meat because they're trying their best to pretend that they aren't either.

A reference for people who just think this is worded weird:

https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/think...

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by mortenjorck »

nend wrote: post #54
beanjuice wrote: post #3

One of the most Hacker News articles ever written. A bad solution (wearing a choker) to a self-generated problem (using Arch) that costs a lot of money. In summary: this generates more problems than it solves (unless you're a navy seal).

One of the most Hacker News comments every written. A dismissive comment about a diy home project because you'd rather be critical of someone else than build something yourself.

I think this is a reaction to the tone set by the headline, which seems to ask "why don't people use this far more cumbersome alternative?"

That said, the assessment of pros and cons in the article is less stereotypically oblivious and more nuanced than the above would suggest.

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by csee »

jaywalk wrote: post #98
eropple wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tend to agree with you in the main - I use MDR-7506's and a sE Dynacaster as my normal setup - but you absolutely can get comfortable IEMs. But they really aren't cheap. If I need to do something that looks "cans free" at my desk I keep a set of Shure SE215s, which aren't super comfortable but they're tolerable for an hour or two. To me, reasonably affordable throat mics sound terrible, which is a big factor.

I've worn Shure SE215s for 4+ hours at a time countless times for professional broadcasts. I found them to be very comfortable, and actually do use them at home for conferencing. It's definitely a personal preference thing, although I'm sure the more expensive ones are even more comfortable.

How do these IEMs with their passive seal compare to active noise cancelling headphones for the purposes of unwanted noise attenuation

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by hardwaresofton »

remram wrote: post #66
antiterra wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It definitely reads as a personal project and not one claiming a superior solution (“People can hear me gulp”)

The TLDR says: > Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone Seems like a claim to me!

Yep, lemme weaken that real quick -- I was thinking a really old kinda shitty one, technically musician grade gear is standalone and wired...

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by soared »

remram wrote: post #66
antiterra wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It definitely reads as a personal project and not one claiming a superior solution (“People can hear me gulp”)

The TLDR says: > Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone Seems like a claim to me!

You pulled out a sentence fragment to completely change the meaning, not really a cool thing to do.

> > tl;dr - Don’t chuck the Sony 1000XMs/AirPods just yet. Throat mics are an improvement over a standalone wired microphone (if that’s what you are using), and have better background noise reduction but in a quiet room your usual bluetooth headset is still way more convenient

Re: Why don't more people use throat mics?

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Post by duped »

javajosh wrote: post #25

I should write up my solution using a parabolic dish that focuses sound from a relatively small zone where my head (usually) is, into a good cheap mic. You get good isolation (even from keyboard sounds) requires nothing on your head or throat, and ... physics! (You just need to accept a big dish in your field of view, and you also can't pace, walk around, as with bluetooth solutions.)

A smaller form factor solution would be an array of mems mics and some software for beam forming. It's pretty popular in enterprise teleconference equipment these days. You can also solve the pacing problem by steering the beams but that's a difficult software problem to solve
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