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Belief in AI sentience is becoming a problem

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Re: Belief in AI sentience is becoming a problem

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Meanwhile belief in human magic is a bigger problem.

While AI generate text from something that it found on the Internet, well, human also do that and even with a astronomically smaller database.

edit: what I originally mean > Some might say that you cant trust the machine because it every text it generates may not be true. Ok, then how accurate is human? We ca definitely embedded some logic achecker into it.

also thinking > Sentience stuffs are just biologically pre-trained program s. Just cut into the brain and that functionallity will gone forever instantly. Also some people are born to have malfunctioning brain, lacking sentience. For example ASD people usually lack the skills to express themselves, so indeed they have to "learn" how to do that. Sentience is not a property that automatically acquired and absolutely not exclusive to human.

Re: Belief in AI sentience is becoming a problem

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Meanwhile belief in human magic is a bigger problem. While AI generate text from something that it found on the Internet, well, human also do that and even with a astronomically smaller database. edit: what I originally mean > Some might say that you cant trust the machine because it every text it generates may not be true. Ok, then how accurate is human? We ca definitely embedded some logic achecker into it. also th…

Some might consider this evidence of human sentience, but I think it's widely agreed-upon that this would be an impractical feature that'd only lead to problems.

Re: Belief in AI sentience is becoming a problem

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People believe in ghosts, and nobody bats an eye.

People believe in gods, and nobody bats an eye.

People believe in aliens, and nobody bats an eye.

People believe in a conscious AI, and everybody loses their shit?

People have attributed intelligence to imaginary friends since the birth of time, let them have fun in their make-believe world.

Re: Belief in AI sentience is becoming a problem

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"On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."

Passages from the Life of a Philosopher (London 1864)

Re: Belief in AI sentience is becoming a problem

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People believe in ghosts, and nobody bats an eye. People believe in gods, and nobody bats an eye. People believe in aliens, and nobody bats an eye. People believe in a conscious AI, and everybody loses their shit? People have attributed intelligence to imaginary friends since the birth of time, let them have fun in their make-believe world.

I don't think it's people's beliefs that are the problem here (and agree with you that make-believe is fine). It's the implications of what a sentient AI would actually mean.

Many of us grew up with movies like Wargames and Terminator, so it's easy to see how people make the leap from 'is this machine sentient' to 'machines will take over the world'. That said, it's still a knee jerk reaction at this point - we don't have sentient AI, so don't have to worry about it eventually wiping out humankind.

Re: Belief in AI sentience is becoming a problem

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People believe in ghosts, and nobody bats an eye. People believe in gods, and nobody bats an eye. People believe in aliens, and nobody bats an eye. People believe in a conscious AI, and everybody loses their shit? People have attributed intelligence to imaginary friends since the birth of time, let them have fun in their make-believe world.

I don't think it's people's beliefs that are the problem here (and agree with you that make-believe is fine). It's the implications of what a sentient AI would actually mean. Many of us grew up with movies like Wargames and Terminator, so it's easy to see how people make the leap from 'is this machine sentient' to 'machines will take over the world'. That said, it's still a knee jerk reaction at this point - we don't…

"Belief in AI sentience is becoming a problem", the issue is just regarding people who are starting to believe AI is sentient, it's not even an issue of "is it really sentient or not" because that's just a dumbfounded question as everyone even tangentially in the field can respond.

Re: Belief in AI sentience is becoming a problem

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I don't think LaMDA (or any other AI) is conscious or sentient.

However, how will we be able to recognise it when we do create something that could be considered sentient? It seems inevitable that we will at some point.

Many of the arguments used to suggest AI isn't sentient seem reductive, for example saying it's just a complex algorithm or statistical system. You could similarly say human brains are just a bunch of neurons firing in sequence to emulate sentience.

In terms of capability, most of these systems seem far more advanced than my pet rabbits, but I believe most people would consider a rabbit conscious and sentient. The obvious thing these AIs lack compared to animals is objective (/emotions), a default mode network, continual learning and medium/long term memory. But are these necessary properties for sentience? If a human loses one of these properties, are they no longer sentient? If we granted these properties to a current generation AI, would it be considered sentient?

Re: Belief in AI sentience is becoming a problem

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People believe in ghosts, and nobody bats an eye. People believe in gods, and nobody bats an eye. People believe in aliens, and nobody bats an eye. People believe in a conscious AI, and everybody loses their shit? People have attributed intelligence to imaginary friends since the birth of time, let them have fun in their make-believe world.

It might be a problem if a bunch of people start asking that you treat your toaster with respect, and give it voting rights.

Re: Belief in AI sentience is becoming a problem

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People believe in ghosts, and nobody bats an eye. People believe in gods, and nobody bats an eye. People believe in aliens, and nobody bats an eye. People believe in a conscious AI, and everybody loses their shit? People have attributed intelligence to imaginary friends since the birth of time, let them have fun in their make-believe world.

Ghosts, gods, aliens can be discarded with a very high probability that they don't exists, or we can say that nobody came up with evidence so far.

Computers rule our world, their existence is not a question so people's reaction and interest is understandable. There are very real fears that AI could mass destroy jobs before we can fix our social systems and benefits, like universal basic income.

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