Launching Version 13.1 of Wolfram Language and Mathematica

Post by plaguepilled » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 6:50 AM UTC

jiggawatts wrote: post #8

n-e-w wrote: post #6

Rather than just bashing Stephen's personality and rehashing Cosma Shalizi's driveby on NKOS, can we try and focus on the technical accomplishment that Mathematica represents? It really is an astounding system. If you enjoy functional programming, the language is super expressive and productive. The integrated libraries are fantastic -- especially if you want to chain together different knowledge domains through a co…

The saddest thing about Mathematica is that despite the incredible level of effort invested into it by some of the smartest people on the planet, it will inevitably be relegated to the dustbin of history. As a proprietary language and kernel, it can never compete long-term with open source alternatives. It's one thing to have a proprietary product , but for decades now proprietary languages have been a no-go for prac…

Post by wiz21c » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 6:57 AM UTC

wiz21c wrote: post #10

How does R compare to Mathematica for data science ?

Post by DantesKite » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 7:08 AM UTC

spoonjim wrote: post #7

n-e-w wrote: post #6

Rather than just bashing Stephen's personality and rehashing Cosma Shalizi's driveby on NKOS, can we try and focus on the technical accomplishment that Mathematica represents? It really is an astounding system. If you enjoy functional programming, the language is super expressive and productive. The integrated libraries are fantastic -- especially if you want to chain together different knowledge domains through a co…

I’ve come around on Stephen Wolfram. His puffery essentially hurts nobody besides perhaps those close to him, it’s easy to tune out, while his ambition has produced this really wonderful piece of software.

Post by dhdc » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 7:10 AM UTC

jiggawatts wrote: post #8

n-e-w wrote: post #6

Rather than just bashing Stephen's personality and rehashing Cosma Shalizi's driveby on NKOS, can we try and focus on the technical accomplishment that Mathematica represents? It really is an astounding system. If you enjoy functional programming, the language is super expressive and productive. The integrated libraries are fantastic -- especially if you want to chain together different knowledge domains through a co…

The saddest thing about Mathematica is that despite the incredible level of effort invested into it by some of the smartest people on the planet, it will inevitably be relegated to the dustbin of history. As a proprietary language and kernel, it can never compete long-term with open source alternatives. It's one thing to have a proprietary product , but for decades now proprietary languages have been a no-go for prac…

Post by bdowling » Thu, Jun 30, 2022, 7:22 AM UTC

kaba0 wrote: post #16

bdowling wrote: post #14

At least in the United States, there’s nothing to stop someone from independently implementing the Wolfram Language and libraries and not paying Wolfram anything. See Oracle v. Google (U.S. 2021), which held that copyright law does not protect libraries (e.g. structure, function names, semantics) and APIs because they’re necessary for compatibility/interoperability. The highest court said that was fair use for Google…

> which held that copyright law does not protect libraries Correct me if I’m wrong but it held that this specific case was fair use, not that structure, function name, etc are not copyrightable. While it does give a huge precedent case, code in itself is still under copyright by default. But IANAL.