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Like google, twitter, facebook, instagram, apple and more.
Except TikTok is operating on behalf of an authoritarian regime with no protection for human rights, freedom of speech or thought, rule of law, separation and balance of power, or any of those quaint things.
Interior, crocodile, alligator, TikTok is a covert surveillance aggregator.
Like google, twitter, facebook, instagram, apple and more.
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China uses data from private industry to target and imprison undesirable ethnic and religious minorities at an unthinkable scale. https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/12/09/china-big-data-program-t... "China bad" is a casual way of dismissing these crimes, which I find to be quite repulsive.
TikTok doesn't operate in China. All TikTok data is stored either in the USA or Singapore. There's a Dublin data center underway. Douyin is the original TikTok. It operates exclusively in China and all it's data is in China.
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So if someone like elon musk or peter theil did something like this, they gave $419 million to a bunch of red states all while aggressively promoting trump, would you still claim it's "not damning"? This is an example of an extremely wealthy person influencing an election, plain and simple. It's odd to me that we're all just supposed to be ok with it.
Voting access expansion and protection should not be considered partisan. End of story.
It’s incredible that the US allowed TikTok (which is by all measures a chinese spy tool) to become such a dominant social network. India got it right from the beggining by banning TikTok. They saw the immense threat and didn’t hesitate. China, by principle, has always banned all foreign information technology companies. What seemed hostile for us, it’s a reasonable play if you understand the unmeasurable power of mas…
So China deploys and app to the US market that China itself doesn't use. The app aggressively collects location and biometric information about the users while promoting copious amounts of destabilizing and divisive political content among other things. I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but it's hard not to see this as a trojan horse and it's shocking that the powers that be in the US are not assessing this situation more seriously. The OP is right in that this seems like one of many troubling signs that the US is in a decline of sorts.
[1] https://time.com/6139988/countries-where-twitter-facebook-ti...
A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…
One thing I do though, since missing out on TikTok bothers me, is to watch YouTube clips of TikTok videos which have been downloaded and shared on YT. Not that YT is better in terms on privacy, but it's better than having a Chinese malware app on your phone.
It's also worth to remember: "Facebook Inc. has been paying hundreds of outside contractors to transcribe clips of audio from users of its services" "Social network says it paused human review of conversations" So again my question is wtf is so big fuss about tiktok. We already knew about PRISM and that all the data goes to the government. It also goes to 3rd party contractors, advertisers and who knows who else... h…
I have the same take as you, and reading all these comments makes me feel like I’m on crazy pills. Google and Meta apparently get a pass because they’re “American companies.” Even though we know that they collect personal data and manipulate people en masse as part of their core product offerings. And of course, through PRISM and other programs, the US govt has access to much of it. I think people are just scared bec…
This is a distortion of reality in support of an agenda. Google and Meta most certainly do not get a pass - a review of either mass media or tech media/news aggregators like Reddit/Hacker News/Lobsters will show a consistent pattern of strongly condemning data collection from those two companies in particular.
The alarm is over the fact that, on top of the issues of letting any company collect so much personal information about you, TikTok has the unique additional problem of being effectively controlled by the government of the most dangerous (power * malice) country on Earth. Singling them out is understandable, reasonable, and somewhat predictable.
A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…
I'm going to guess that the purpose is to use the data to eventually build life-like, AI-generated social media influencers. The data will show what kind of faces, voices, inflections, word choice, etc. is most influential. I don't think the technology is quite there yet, but very soon it will be possible, with a little hand tweaking, to fake "cool" people — video bots. It will be used as a psy-op.
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The fact that India would consider TikTok a threat but not Meta leads me to believe that it wasn't done on a purely espionage basis. The threat of TikTok, today, it still theoretical, while Facebook has done measurable harm to India's neighbors.
Tiktok is a far worse threat to India than Meta though. Unlike China, US is not an adversary of India and US didn't kill Indian soldiers just two years back. So it makes sense they would go after Tiktok. The harm is just not espionage, it is also manipulation of sentiment by propoganda. Also, I am not really sure with all the equivalence to Meta in this thread. Sure, Meta has things to be criticized about but if one…