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TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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I don't think we need pandasecurity to tell us that. I believe the same info was/is gathered by facebook, google and more or less Apple. I guess double standards are still easier and better for the U.S instead to "empower" the individuals to own their data and secure their communication.

The same info is not gathered by American big tech. There is much more in the way of privacy controls in those companies. Source: work for one.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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post #9

I wonder if Illinois residents will be eligible for another pay out like with Facebook and Google when they collected this data. https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/did-you-receive-a-illi...

Exactly what I was thinking. Who's responsible for filing these class action lawsuits, anyway?

Anyone with standing, eg anyone who was harmed (and their lawyer).

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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post #36

A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

Is this collection different from, say, Meta? I believe they collect all the same information via Instagram. And before someone says Meta is an American company, not controlled by an adversary, let me recall that it’s controlled by Zuckerberg who spent $419 million to influence US election administration in a seemingly partisan way (“democracy hacking” as another commenter said). Meta may not be YOUR adversary, but t…

Do you think that any of it is acceptable?

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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post #20

A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

TikTok is a spectacular example of both human- and democracy-hacking. It's like an authoritarian regime saw facebook in 2012 and said, "hold my beverage of choice."

> authoritarian regime saw facebook in 2012 and said

What a weird statement. Facebook has been taking all of that data for a long time. Some of the protections in Android and iOS were specifically added to inhibit Facebook from recording the surroundings in the background. TikTok just does more of the same partly because they just have more audio and video data to work with. Remember how Uber showed how cool they can track hookup dates? All of that is potentially blackmail-able information.

Are you somehow insinuating that Facebook is somehow okay because they are in a "democratic" country?

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#45
post #35

Is there someone here that work at TikTok who could explain how collecting such that brings any value to TikTok. That's an honest question. I understand that we're being tracked with cookies, email address, FB/Google accounts. But the biometric stuff, what is it for ? It seems very disproportionate to me if it's just for advertising.

It’s all to feed the AI training database. The more data it has, the more insights the AI can provide.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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post #35

Is there someone here that work at TikTok who could explain how collecting such that brings any value to TikTok. That's an honest question. I understand that we're being tracked with cookies, email address, FB/Google accounts. But the biometric stuff, what is it for ? It seems very disproportionate to me if it's just for advertising.

I guess it could be used to create social graphs and perhaps also run machine learning (i.e people using a specific accent may like watching some specific content). More data is almost always better.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#47
post #36

A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

Is this collection different from, say, Meta? I believe they collect all the same information via Instagram. And before someone says Meta is an American company, not controlled by an adversary, let me recall that it’s controlled by Zuckerberg who spent $419 million to influence US election administration in a seemingly partisan way (“democracy hacking” as another commenter said). Meta may not be YOUR adversary, but t…

> Is this collection different from, say, Meta? I believe they collect all the same information via Instagram.

Who's doing the collecting often matters much more than what is actually collected.

The important context here is we seem to be transitioning away from the era of kumbaya free market globalism into an era of tenser geopolitical rivalries and more conflict.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#48
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this collection different from, say, Meta? I believe they collect all the same information via Instagram. And before someone says Meta is an American company, not controlled by an adversary, let me recall that it’s controlled by Zuckerberg who spent $419 million to influence US election administration in a seemingly partisan way (“democracy hacking” as another commenter said). Meta may not be YOUR adversary, but t…

Do you think that any of it is acceptable?

It should be unacceptable regardless of country of origin.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#49
post #10

Interior, crocodile, alligator, TikTok is a covert surveillance aggregator.

Like google, twitter, facebook, instagram, apple and more.

Except TikTok is operating on behalf of an authoritarian regime with no protection for human rights, freedom of speech or thought, rule of law, separation and balance of power, or any of those quaint things.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TikTok is a spectacular example of both human- and democracy-hacking. It's like an authoritarian regime saw facebook in 2012 and said, "hold my beverage of choice."

> authoritarian regime saw facebook in 2012 and said What a weird statement. Facebook has been taking all of that data for a long time. Some of the protections in Android and iOS were specifically added to inhibit Facebook from recording the surroundings in the background. TikTok just does more of the same partly because they just have more audio and video data to work with. Remember how Uber showed how cool they can…

I think the comment is insinuating that any country that wants deep personal data on a huge subset of the population should make sure it has a popular social network, so its citizens (and in some cases, citizens from around the world) willingly sit there inputting any and every detail about their lives and relationships into the database.
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