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TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#31

Great news. The fact that a company from the unfriendly country collects biometrical data may finally provoke enough outrage that such data collection gets forbidden for everyone .

I don't think it will.

Invasive data collection benefits the powerful, and harms the individual.

Nobody powerful gives a rat's ass about the individual.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#32
I tried creating an account yesterday (with a throwaway email, because fuck every other way, not giving you my number, Google account, whatever else) because a relative started posting videos and told me to check them out.

When I tried to enter the security code it said "Too many attempts", "Try later". Apparently this means my IP is banned. WTF. I've had this IP for years (static from ISP on a fiber connection, really nice, I even host shit on it including a website and a VPN because torrenting is legal lol).

Either they banned my whole country, or they don't want people signing up anonymously, or (my tinfoil conspiracy) it interacts with Reddit, where this IP is permabanned.

Anyway, thanks, good riddance. I don't want to get addicted to another site, and from what people say TikTok seems stupid but is the most addictive.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#33
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A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

would you not make the same argument for google?

Many would, yes. But Google can use the “but we are an American company, so you are threatening to harm American industry” argument and can afford to pay for a large army of lobbyists to push that agenda if America tries to reign them in.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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post #20

A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

TikTok is a spectacular example of both human- and democracy-hacking. It's like an authoritarian regime saw facebook in 2012 and said, "hold my beverage of choice."

my intellectual colleagues loudly decried Facebook on Day One; Facebook itself is the original darkness here. ill winds blow

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#35
Is there someone here that work at TikTok who could explain how collecting such that brings any value to TikTok.

That's an honest question. I understand that we're being tracked with cookies, email address, FB/Google accounts. But the biometric stuff, what is it for ? It seems very disproportionate to me if it's just for advertising.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#36

A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

Is this collection different from, say, Meta? I believe they collect all the same information via Instagram.

And before someone says Meta is an American company, not controlled by an adversary, let me recall that it’s controlled by Zuckerberg who spent $419 million to influence US election administration in a seemingly partisan way (“democracy hacking” as another commenter said). Meta may not be YOUR adversary, but that fact is not necessarily true of all (or even most) Americans

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#37

Great news. The fact that a company from the unfriendly country collects biometrical data may finally provoke enough outrage that such data collection gets forbidden for everyone .

Not really. Tiktok is bad because all of the sudden China became bad. It wasn't bad few years ago; some western countries such the UK loved to say how good China is. The U.S apps are "good" because they are PRISM-enabled and your have nothing to hide from the U.S gov, right?

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#38
post #16

A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

would you not make the same argument for google?

The legal environment is wildly different. Google doesn’t have an internal board of government officials controlling it. All large software companies in China do. Google doesn’t operate in China for this reason. Apple divested their cloud operations to the Guizhou government for this reason.

In the US is it normal and routine for corporations to dispute government demands. In China, If you don’t play ball with the party, your company ceases to exist and you are put behind the great firewall.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

would you not make the same argument for google?

Yes, but Google is on our, well "my" side. I would expect an "adversary" nationstate, like China, to respond with similar alarm.

China has, they’ve banned most Western social media.

Re: TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)

#40

A security researcher wrote an article while back and it was shocking to see how much data TikTok was collecting: - biometrics - what words are mentioned in the video, popularity - surrounding wifi, location data - your contacts (presumably to cross link to social media platforms) I just can't believe that a powerful country like America is letting a not-so-friendly military/civilian complex infiltrate it for somewha…

It was a politically untenable situation to ban data collecting software applications as the courts overruled the federal decision. >After Trump proposed to ban TikTok in the U.S on July 31, 2020, security researchers expressed their concern about limitations of freedom. In one article, PCMag quoted Jennifer Granick of the American Civil Liberties Union Surveillance and Cybersecurity Counsel who said that "banning an…

And today we hear: FCC Commissioner Calls for Apple and Google to Ban TikTok Over 'Surreptitious' Data Practices

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31921200

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