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They definitely came a long way since their first video 8 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD1AbWGqT4c What makes you say it contains CGI?

It obviously contains a lot of CGI, but the question is if the lego pieces are CGI.

Based on the VFX breakdowns I think the ones in the distance and out of focus are.

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When were you a child? In the late eightees, I happily played with Lego that had grey swords for knights in grey castles, and pirate themed stuff with brown guns, and cannons that were grey and brown. Lots of green base plates, too.

I assume it was the 70s. During the 80s, Lego included more and more green, brown, and especially grey, and also more and more weapons. First swords and spears for the knights, later muskets for the Pirate theme, and then blasters for Star Wars. They still don't like modern weaponry, though. I'm not sure if they have guns for their cops and robbers. The real military stuff comes from clones/competitors, not from Lego…

The movie-tie ins are the closest they get to "modern weaponry in LEGO" and it's not much (mainly Star Wars) - they intentionally made the muskets and such for Pirates pretty old looking.

They weren't averse to reusing pieces to make guns (the early Star Wars sets used megaphones for that) and they have revolvers, etc: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?catType=P&catStrin... has all Minifig, Weapon that are made by LEGO.

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I assume it was the 70s. During the 80s, Lego included more and more green, brown, and especially grey, and also more and more weapons. First swords and spears for the knights, later muskets for the Pirate theme, and then blasters for Star Wars. They still don't like modern weaponry, though. I'm not sure if they have guns for their cops and robbers. The real military stuff comes from clones/competitors, not from Lego…

Looking through 70s lego sets there is a ton of greens and grays. Not a lot of 'violent' stuff, as it's mainly models of houses and transport vehicles. But it seems to come along with the minifigs in 78.

IIRC the "dark green" and "brown" were more expensive to make accurately without color variation - bright green had been around for a long while.

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When I was a child, Lego was explicitly and deliberately pacifist in outlook. I remember reading that the colour palette was determined in part by this philosophy - green, grey and brown were verboten, the latter colour completely absent and the first two existing only in limited plate form. Of course manufacturing cost limitations made a restricted set of colours sensible anyway. As a preventative, this was not enti…

> Lego was explicitly and deliberately pacifist in outlook For my part, I remember (in addition to the SW kits) cavalry vs indians kits, full with sabers, rifles and pistol, which we often used with modern-day kits.

LEGO didn't want to sell weapons used in existing conflicts because there may be kids there, too. So most things were historical or fictional (but kids don't care, they can do cops + robbers with anything).

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I deny Lego themes drifted towards violence. I just went through my kits from the late 80ies/early 90ies since kid is reaching Lego age. I was a big fan of Space, and like > 60% of the sets are Blacktron and Space Police. City kits always had police and my cousin mostly owned Castles/Knights. There were pirates and pirate ships with cannons that can shoot bricks (we loved those) Pirates seem to be mostly gone and rep…

Yeah, the answers in this thread clearly show that I greatly overestimated whatever pacifism commitment Lego ever had. I'm genuinely surprised, apparently they were quite successful at overselling the "play good" brand to me. Pirate cannons actually throwing plastic? Before today I was convinced that this was the defining difference between Lego and Playmobil. I'm from the region that is home to playmobil and we have…

The LEGO shooting cannon came out, and then went away for a number of years, and then came back - I guess whatever "safety" reason they took it away for was decided not as important later.

I remember as a kid finding one of the then-old "shooty" cannons and it was the most prized one I had.

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Pirates, knights, ninjas, cops and robbers, etc. are part of being a boy. Girls have Barbie.

Part of being a child. My daughter would not be seen dead with a Barbie (a doll anyway, she really enjoys the other kind).

Klaus Barbie? The Butcher of Lyon?

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Poster said Lego has been promoting aggressiveness, not that it has caused aggressiveness. It's undeniable that Lego themes have drifted a lot more to violence (Lego City is half about Policing), plus all the Ninja and other stuff.

I don't think it's s much about Lego promoting it, but giving in to demand. The more violent lines are consistently their most popular ones. The excessive amount of policing and lack of hospitals in Lego City is disturbing, but I'm sure their sales numbers dictate this. They used to have hospitals in the past, but I guess they never sold as well as the police stations.

The top sellers in LEGO city are always police, fire, then a close tie between mechanics and hospitals.

They've said that a main reason is there's a direct visible story with those, and their main customers are boys (not as much with LEGO Friends which is their first girl-oriented and successful line) and boys want conflict/story. "Save the people from a fire" or "catch the robber" - even a hospital falls a bit short there.

The old joke is LEGO City has fifty five thousand police stations, almost as many fire stations, one gas station, and one house.

The current hospital: https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/hospital-60330 goes up against (at my count) two police stations, two fire stations, and some various "smaller" police/fire sets.

To be fair, LEGO has always had houses available, but they often fell under LEGO Classic or LEGO Creator (and now LEGO Friends).

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Police transitioned from just cops with a police station or a motor cycle directing traffic to police stations with jails and criminals inside.

I have a Lego City police station from the mid-80s that has a jail cell.

The very first Lego police station had a jail cell: https://blog.firestartoys.com/evolution-of-the-brick-lego-po... but no criminals, I guess you had to supply your own or assume that one of the cops is a dirty rat.

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Myself and my then GF visited Arras just north of Verdun in 2019. She was a few months pregnant at that stage and in every hotel we stayed, the proprietor warned her to only drink bottled water, including for brushing teeth. The locality got so hammered with poison gas shells, it all seeped into the ground water making it mildly poisonous!! Lovely part of the world, but a sad legacy of military buildups.

What about non-pregnant people?

It is an honest question. Is the poison bad for others or only because a pregnant woman or the foetus are exceptionally weak to it?

If it is, why and how do people still live there?

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Are you criticizing Lego for producing what sells? Aren’t they producing what our culture wants? Do you think a wokeness set would sell as well as a pirate set?

Well, FWIW it's impossible to find a Pirate set on a brick and mortar shelf, but Lego Friends and similar are still selling reasonably well.

Pirates have never really "come back" as an official theme but pirate-themed sets have appeared on shelves now and then (Creator has one).

Part of the problem is that dedicated toy stores are almost dead, so if Walmart or Target's shelf of LEGO doesn't have it, it basically doesn't exist.

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