I almost always have at least one subscription with Jetbrains. This all sounds reasonable, especially with competition from VSCode ecosystem as well as LSP support improving.
Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack
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Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack
#132Most JetBrains products are super slow, and resource hogs. I get red mist in front of my eyes whenever I see a DataGrip icon as it tends to consume all your CPU and memory for complex databases regardless of your machine spec. These days I am mostly using VsCode for development and TablePlus/Postico for database development.
> Most JetBrains products are super slow, and resource hogs
> These days I am mostly using VsCode for development
Please qualify the difference in speed between JetBrains and VS Code. From my perspective, they are both “super slow” and “resource hogs”.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is your developer salary also adjusted based on country per capita? Or are you getting a mostly Western salary?
Steam does it very well for games, pricing games differentially such that they are much cheaper in 3rd world countries. JetBrains could do something similar too. Developer wages too vary from country to country.
Steam basically turned it on for every developer until a lot of them noticed how little are they getting from some countries.
If iPhones and TV cost the same I'm not sure why software products should.
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#134Jetbrains doesn’t get my money because of how much of a confusing mess their product lineup is. They have a bunch of different IDEs sold separately that ultimately seem to be identical except for language support. Why isn’t language support implemented as plugins if all the IDEs share a common framework? Last I checked, it seemed like they do have an “ultimate” version with multiple language support… except that one…
IIRC IntelliJ is a superset of all their products
Except for stuff like C/C++
Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
Steam does it very well for games, pricing games differentially such that they are much cheaper in 3rd world countries. JetBrains could do something similar too. Developer wages too vary from country to country.
Steam basically turned it on for every developer until a lot of them noticed how little are they getting from some countries. If iPhones and TV cost the same I'm not sure why software products should.
If its a question of a little vs nothing, it is better to have atleast a little IMHO.
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#136I get so much value out of JetBrains products that if a price increase is what is needed or them to stay on business I can accept that. (The products are paid by my employer so this only affects indirectly) It might be an unpopular opinion but I appreciate the transparency of the post. There are other companies which products I use that I’m afraid are not financially sustainable and thus I’m afraid for an email sayin…
Agreed. I also get a license from my employer, but continue to pay for the all products pack separately because they make such nice stuff, and I'm happy to support them in this small, mostly symbolic way.
Same. For me, it’s the JavaScript development experience that really sets Jetbrains apart.
I’m sure other IDEs can offer parity with the compiled languages, but if I’m using an IDE in the first place, I’m probably working on a web app, and getting first class support for both the frontend and backend in the same window is huge for productivity.
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#137Immediately paid for 3 more years without a second thought though the pricing is completely reasonable and I wouldn't have had an issue paying the new price.
Also I give JetBrains massive respect for including the old/new pricing on their pricing page versus what so many companies do which is "our prices have changed" without making it clear and leaving people to using the Wayback Machine to figure it out. Also allowing people to renew up to 3 years at the old price is a move that inspries a lot of loyalty (as shown by my immediate purchase/extension).
I understand if you don't program enough to make it worth paying for a tool but if you develop professionally then the JetBrains products are a steal. I really only use IDEA (PHP, TS, Java) and DataGrip (databases) but I pay for the full product pack in case I ever need another tool. I recently used AppCode and was very pleasantly surprised by it as I quite dislike Xcode for actual coding.
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#138Most JetBrains products are super slow, and resource hogs. I get red mist in front of my eyes whenever I see a DataGrip icon as it tends to consume all your CPU and memory for complex databases regardless of your machine spec. These days I am mostly using VsCode for development and TablePlus/Postico for database development.
> Most JetBrains products are super slow, and resource hogs > These days I am mostly using VsCode for development Please qualify the difference in speed between JetBrains and VS Code. From my perspective, they are both “super slow” and “resource hogs”.
I moved from Jetbrains to VS code and the speed increase was phenomenal. Jetbrains was pretty sluggish and buggy on my MBP compared to VS code.
Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack
#139Seems to be a 15% increase for a personal account, which is reasonable
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