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Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#31
post #7

That’s actually not that bad. The All-products pack goes is only getting 24€ (pre-tax) more expensive per year for me.

On the corp side, the bump is enough that this becomes problematic. Going from $650 to $780 for that first year is going to cause all sorts of "but what about free" conversations next week. Argh.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#32
In general I think a price increase is reasonable but Jetbrains also had to fire most of its staff because of the war and development has slowed to a crawl.

I still pay because I want to support them and their stance but paying more for less leaves a bad aftertaste.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#33
post #15

With 10 USD, I can buy 1 weeks worth of food in my country. I wish SASS, software providers like Jetbrains adjusts their price based on country per capita.

Is your developer salary also adjusted based on country per capita? Or are you getting a mostly Western salary?

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#34
post #10

What the hell is up with prices? Everything I pay in dollars became 20% more expensive. My cereal became 20% more expensive. Jetbrains becomes 20% more expensive. This is the first time in my life (34 yo) that price changes have been so large that they’re apparent to me. And even with a dev salary the combined amount is high enough that it has an impact on my behavior.

USD is becoming worthless, the fed kept printing infinite money and people are sick of receiving toilet paper Also the fact that they had to fire their entire Russian R&D department, and instead rely on Westerners, they are more expensive, so they are forced to increase their price overall, that's my guess

Germany is much worse than the US. Huge inflation with a microscopic salary increase and unlike FED, European central bank doesn't do anything at all to fight inflation (except increasing interest rates to laughable 0.25% - 7x lower than in US). Basically, ECB want to devaluate Euro, so that our salaries can be even lower than in China.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#35

Well in advance. Thanks. By the way I think it would be nice to also have a hobbyist license option for those who barely use it and don't earn any money this way. The actual price seems almost free in terms of how much a full-time developer would earn using it yet slightly expensive for something [awesome] I only launch on some occasions a year.

They do if you contribute to an open source project. There's also Pycharm Community edition which is available through the package manager of most Linux distros.

https://www.jetbrains.com/community/opensource/#support

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#36

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This is so off base and irrationally elitist, you really just don't see how wrong it is.

These tools do SO MUCH more than just give you a GUI for a coding system. Code analysis, preventative suggestions, and a common look and feel for people switching languages and stacks.

Yes, a lot of it can be cobbled together with open source tooling and scripts and blah blah but I want to spend my time getting shit done, not writing code to be able to write code. The 100$ a year was well worth it for the suite I had, and even double that would still be an irrelevant amount of money to me with my engineering salary.

Time is money, saving time - not just my own, but the time of others on my team using similar tooling - is worth spending a little money and dropping snobbish elitism based on nothing stronger than "I must be smart because I know how something works".

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#37
I get so much value out of JetBrains products that if a price increase is what is needed or them to stay on business I can accept that. (The products are paid by my employer so this only affects indirectly)

It might be an unpopular opinion but I appreciate the transparency of the post. There are other companies which products I use that I’m afraid are not financially sustainable and thus I’m afraid for an email saying that the products has been discontinued.

There’s always the possibility of open source, home brewed or whatever, but when it comes to getting stuff done sometimes paying is cheaper than the time/effort of an alternative.

Best of luck jetbrains!

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#38

In general I think a price increase is reasonable but Jetbrains also had to fire most of its staff because of the war and development has slowed to a crawl. I still pay because I want to support them and their stance but paying more for less leaves a bad aftertaste.

They didn't fire most of their staff. They closed the Russian offices and offered relocation to everyone in Russia (and many took it). I mean they were practically forced to close their Russian offices with the current political situation and war going on. The relocation process is very expensive as well as opening new offices in Europe and rehiring there as CoL and salaries in Europe are much higher.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#39

I don’t have much to add but what I do have is a question. What happens when people are priced out of economic activity. Most recent memory of this much economic turbulence is ‘08 but the conditions between then and now are incomparable.

Well for digital products, the answer is usually piracy.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

#40
post #10

What the hell is up with prices? Everything I pay in dollars became 20% more expensive. My cereal became 20% more expensive. Jetbrains becomes 20% more expensive. This is the first time in my life (34 yo) that price changes have been so large that they’re apparent to me. And even with a dev salary the combined amount is high enough that it has an impact on my behavior.

> My cereal became 20% more expensive.

> Jetbrains becomes 20% more expensive.

I understand the frustration but surely you can see the causality link here? Jetbrains employees have to eat too.

The individual solution is sadly for you to ask for a 20% raise and screw people down the line.

Global solution would be enforced price controls, we know it works because France did it after the war, the government imposed lower prices and started selling good directly itself and France got out with a much lower inflation than other countries.

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