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As far as themed sets go, Lego has been consistent in promoting aggressiveness in the last 30 years. Police chasing the bad guys to put them in a prison cell, pirates wanting to plunder the treasure, ninjas riding heavily-armed aircraft.

Is that it, are we back at “video games cause murders”-level pearl clutching? I’ll take a peer-reviewed cohort study before I believe that “Lego has been consistent in promoting aggressiveness”.

Poster said Lego has been promoting aggressiveness, not that it has caused aggressiveness. It's undeniable that Lego themes have drifted a lot more to violence (Lego City is half about Policing), plus all the Ninja and other stuff.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

#33

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Are you criticizing Lego for producing what sells? Aren’t they producing what our culture wants? Do you think a wokeness set would sell as well as a pirate set?

There was a time when Lego was pretty solidly pacifist in what they chose to make. Sure, you could make a gun out of your bricks, but they didn’t make plans for them, or special parts. Over time this has changed. There is an entire page on Wikipedia dedicated to chronicling this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_and_Lego

When was that time?

Because classic space had rayguns, and the pirate ships had working cannons.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Call me a killjoy, but the Battle of Verdun was one of the worst and bloodiest battles of a horrific war that arguably ruined Europe. Is there Lego Auschwitz, too? Bad taste, whoever did this. Bad taste.

This looks to be a history presentation in a medium the creator is most proficient, not a glorification or trivialisation of war, as evidenced by the epilogue.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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Call me a killjoy, but the Battle of Verdun was one of the worst and bloodiest battles of a horrific war that arguably ruined Europe. Is there Lego Auschwitz, too? Bad taste, whoever did this. Bad taste.

considering that the video has a like two minutes long educational section without lego at the end and the fact that it is not much fun to watch this ... I would say: good job.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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"The Battle of Verdun showed the strength and determination of the French, and revealed to the world the chaos and destructiveness of modern war." Based on the jokes from WWII, they must have not recovered that tenacity in time. "We have these gently used WWII French rifles. They've only been dropped once"

No one in Europe makes such jokes, the French fought like lions. Of course, our friends across the pond also think state healthcare is communism, and republicans are “literally” nazis so, I wouldn’t truck too much with such statements.

(Ignorant) English people absolutely make jokes about the French being militarily incompetent and prone to surrender, in the face of significant evidence[0] - "France is the most successful military power in history".

Source: am English, am attempting to become decreasingly ignorant over time.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_France

EDIT: Wait, crap, I forgot Brexit. I guess your statement remains _technically_ incorrect, since England is in (the continent of) Europe but not in the EU.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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post #23

Call me a killjoy, but the Battle of Verdun was one of the worst and bloodiest battles of a horrific war that arguably ruined Europe. Is there Lego Auschwitz, too? Bad taste, whoever did this. Bad taste.

This is clearly art. Whether it is in bad taste or not is subjective, but art should not shy away from the horrors of humanity just as it should not shy away from the triumphs of humanity.

Personally I think it is excellent, and stuff like this will encourage the younger generation to ask "What was Verdun?". It has way more capacity for teaching/inspiring interest than me having been forced to sit in class and read about Verdun in a textbook.

IMO, those most willing to call for violence from behind the keyboard are those who least understand the real world consequences, those who have the least knowledge of the horrors that have come before. It's really important for people to know just how cruel and awful we can be to each other, and most importantly, how damn pointless it all was. Media like this can help bridge that gulf.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a time when Lego was pretty solidly pacifist in what they chose to make. Sure, you could make a gun out of your bricks, but they didn’t make plans for them, or special parts. Over time this has changed. There is an entire page on Wikipedia dedicated to chronicling this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_and_Lego

When was that time? Because classic space had rayguns, and the pirate ships had working cannons.

> When was that time?

It's literally written in the article that the person you are responding to linked. I'd recommend reading it.

Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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I wonder if this is done with CGI or real Legos. The texture on the prices is excellent but The LEGO Movie achieved this level or realism in CGI. Edit: looked at the rest of his channel. It’s a mix of stop motion, rigs to throw bricks/simulate brick explosions, and CGI.

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Re: Lego Battle of Verdun [video]

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post #23

Call me a killjoy, but the Battle of Verdun was one of the worst and bloodiest battles of a horrific war that arguably ruined Europe. Is there Lego Auschwitz, too? Bad taste, whoever did this. Bad taste.

Isn't this all the more reason to remember this battle? While the Lego re-enactment does have elements of action that could be misinterpreted as glorification of war, the 2 minutes educating the viewer on the actual history seems to indicate that this is a tribute to the lives lost and an education on the horror of war.

Similarly, a Lego Auschwitz would probably be a good way to explore history. Again, not to glorify it, but to educate people in engaging ways on how horrific human beings can be to each other.

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