The Deported
laphamsquarterly.org
The Deported
1–10 of 141 posts
Re: The Deported
#2>We base our objections to the Armenians
Objection to an ethnicity. Key indicator of genocide for any action taken based on such an objection.
>on three distinct grounds. In the first place, they have enriched themselves at the expense of the Turks. In the second place, they are determined to domineer over us and to establish a separate state. In the third place, they have openly encouraged our enemies. They have assisted the Russians in the Caucasus, and our failure there is largely explained by their actions.
Reads almost verbatim just like Nazi Germany on Jews back then or Nazi Russia on Ukrainians today.
> We have therefore come to the irrevocable decision that we shall make them powerless before this war is ended.”
Again very similar to the perception of themselves as the master race (Nazi Germany) or the master nation (Nazi Russia) and thus perceiving themselves as having the right to act in such a way.
Re: The Deported
#3 “I wish,” Talaat now said, “that you would get the American life-insurance companies to send us a complete list of their Armenian policy holders. They are practically all dead now and have left no heirs to collect the money. It of course all escheats to the state. The government is the beneficiary now. Will you do so?”
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/12/us/insurer-to-pay-armenia...
Re: The Deported
#4"On every one of these points, I had plenty of arguments in rebuttal. Talaat’s first objection was merely an admission that the Armenians were more industrious and more able than the dull-witted and lazy Turks."
... something turntables ...
Re: The Deported
#5>We base our objections to the Armenians Objection to an ethnicity. Key indicator of genocide for any action taken based on such an objection. >on three distinct grounds. In the first place, they have enriched themselves at the expense of the Turks. In the second place, they are determined to domineer over us and to establish a separate state. In the third place, they have openly encouraged our enemies. They have ass…
It's also very similar to the sort of talk I hear about Muslim immigrants in the United States: "In the first place they take jobs from Americans, in the second they want to impose Sharia law, and in the third place they support terrorism." There's always an 'other' who will be blamed, and we have to guard our minds against plausible talk like this.
Re: The Deported
#6>We base our objections to the Armenians Objection to an ethnicity. Key indicator of genocide for any action taken based on such an objection. >on three distinct grounds. In the first place, they have enriched themselves at the expense of the Turks. In the second place, they are determined to domineer over us and to establish a separate state. In the third place, they have openly encouraged our enemies. They have ass…
> so that I can explain our position on the whole Armenian subject.
Also very similar is the use of the phrase "the subject|question|issue" to plant the seed in the mind of the listener that there is indeed a problem that needs to be "solved".
Re: The Deported
#7>We base our objections to the Armenians Objection to an ethnicity. Key indicator of genocide for any action taken based on such an objection. >on three distinct grounds. In the first place, they have enriched themselves at the expense of the Turks. In the second place, they are determined to domineer over us and to establish a separate state. In the third place, they have openly encouraged our enemies. They have ass…
Russia is coincindentally heading right the way of Ottoman empire, seemingly step, by step.
Decades of futile attempts to retake Balkans after Greek revolt lit the fire in Europe, and caused a chain reaction of support for Ottoman dismantlement.
For Russia to survive as a state in coming decades, it will not need a "Russian Washington," but rather somebody more like a Russian Ataturk.
Re: The Deported
#8>We base our objections to the Armenians Objection to an ethnicity. Key indicator of genocide for any action taken based on such an objection. >on three distinct grounds. In the first place, they have enriched themselves at the expense of the Turks. In the second place, they are determined to domineer over us and to establish a separate state. In the third place, they have openly encouraged our enemies. They have ass…
Nazi Russia? Not once, but twice?
Re: The Deported
#9>We base our objections to the Armenians Objection to an ethnicity. Key indicator of genocide for any action taken based on such an objection. >on three distinct grounds. In the first place, they have enriched themselves at the expense of the Turks. In the second place, they are determined to domineer over us and to establish a separate state. In the third place, they have openly encouraged our enemies. They have ass…
Nazi Russia? Not once, but twice?
Nazism = totalitarian fascist state plus political nationalism. Fascist Italy and Spain weren't nazist for example, while Germany was and Russia today is.
Informally that specific flavor of the Russian Nazi ideology is called "rashism".
Re: The Deported
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nazi Russia? Not once, but twice?
Nazism = totalitarian fascist state plus political nationalism. Fascist Italy and Spain weren't nazist for example, while Germany was and Russia today is. Informally that specific flavor of the Russian Nazi ideology is called "rashism".
[flagged]