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Whatever happened to the bee apocalypse?

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Re: Whatever happened to the bee apocalypse?

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Maybe you've heard of the "car windshield observation": we used to find so many dead insects on windshields some decades ago, and now it is obvious that there are way fewer. This is caused by the insect apocalypse. It's because the harm caused to the bees is from factors that strike as well other insects: mainly pesticides, and global warming.

I think one of many issues with the car windshield observation is we don't have a good baseline. So we notice that in 1990 there were more bugs on our windshields compared to 2020 after a drive through Kansas. But maybe 2020's insect levels are actually a return to normal, preindustrial levels after an anomalous century of high bug populations? We don't have a bug windshield strike stats from 1890. Honestly it's such…

No. There is no suspected cause for any such "anomalously high insect population in the past", while we have a lot of suspected causes, verified by the way (so rather culprits than suspects) for the insects decline. The "anomalously high" "is possible" but is actually pure baseless speculation. Also, there is no such observation in the available litterature, scientific or layman.

You know, it is just a matter of knitting all of our knowledge bits together. Lots of nasty chemicals in the environments, especially design to harm insects. Add to that anormal temperatures and rain levels.

Re: Whatever happened to the bee apocalypse?

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> or just plain biased by one agenda or another. When it reaches mainstream news, there's always an agenda.

So just insinuations and “do your own research?” I’m intrigued as to who the nefarious entity is with their shadowy plan to protect pollinators that the media is conspiring to hide.

Can you just not parrot the same thoughtless nonsense as most people do?

It's not intelligent behaviour. Instead it's completely dismissing something absolutely possible, proven by actual history, unless you wish to believe that no state ever controlled the mass media, ever.

Fact of the matter is that in Austria this has been happening for the last two years in such an obvious fashion that it's scary. The former-former chancellor raised what's colloquially called the "propaganda budget" by ten times to 200 Million+. Do you think they do that for no reason?

Nowadays all the mass media (the publications with the widest reach, if you prefer), here in Austria write and show solely what the governments wants. There is no dissenting thought to read whatsoever. Not a single critical thing.

During the two covid years they also completely blocked out every news from outside regarding it. What went on with that, and still does, is absolutely insane and corrupt to the core.

Did you know that Austria, while everyone else already moved on, still mandated lockdowns and masks? Did you know that, in vienna, masks were still mandatory until a week (two?) ago?

Did you know that there's a huge scandal looming around this, because it appears that people in the government know people in companies which coincidentially sell masks?

Did you know that Austria and Germany were the only countries mandating FFP2 masks specifically and people here had no idea about this?

There was one news outlet which brought a big article about the "corona experts" of the government. It turns out they were all paid by pfizer. Would you call that independent and unbiased?

Did you know that Reporters without borders lowered our "press freedom index", because it noticable got worse?

There's another group, I forgot the name. They asses the "democracy level" of a nation. We've got put down from "liberal democracy" to "electoral democracy".

You have no idea of the shit that happened here in the last two years. Zero. None. You have no idea what can happen to you and where you live.

Anyone believing that Hitler can't happen again ...

... will help making sure Hitler will happen again.

Did you know that the mass media outlets in the USA are only controlled by a few rich people who own a shitton of daughter companies people believe to be local media? Rich people, who belong to the social circle of rich people, who, as you most likely know, have strong influence in the government.

What about the soviet union? Are you claiming they had independent press?

Do you believe that, when there's an entity which continuously orders lots of advertising space in a medium, it does not gain control? I wash your back, you wash mine?

Are you really that naive? Do you truly believe the media tells you the truth and not what they want you to hear? Then why would sensationalism be a thing?

Dude. When you respond, first think for yourself. If all you can do is writing oneliners without any actual points in it, then you're not fit for a discussion.

It makes you come across as someone who's going to REEEE at me eventually.

Let's try again?

(PS: oh and ... you can look all this up. It's all verifyable. DYOR or stop believing you're smarter than others, because you might not be.)

Re: Whatever happened to the bee apocalypse?

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ZH is a great example of the asymmetric warfare of fighting bullshit. They report a mix of truth, distorted interpretations and wholly made up nonsense simultaneously. It costs them almost nothing to generate this trash, and efforts to inspect it would be stymied by the level of effort in tracking citations (if they exist, which is almost never) or even just reporting on whether some predicted topic occurred. Another…

I sometimes feel the urge to read Zero Hedge with a five year delay. Ie read their output from June 2017 today. I imagine that would be mildly entertaining, because a lot of their bullshit would be so much more obvious. Do you remember when they made a big deal out of how the gold derivatives market is bigger than the market for physical gold? As if that is a problem. Or the scandal about Goldman allegedly manipulati…

I remember both of those. That’s why I kind of love it. So much of it is obvious bullshit, every now and then and negative truth, but bullshit in the way that watching Alex Jones is kind of fun. Somewhere out there are people who are true believers, and they are the suckers that keep the world turning.

Re: Whatever happened to the bee apocalypse?

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You're mistaken. only big ag can pivot. The smaller your are, the harder it is to keep up with all the regulation. Notice also the phenomenon of regulatory capture.

If you want to stop getting downvoted try refuting my central points directly, I'm not really sold

Down vote to -infinity. I don't care about your internet points.
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