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Council of Europe anti-torture Committee visits the Netherlands

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> At the end of the visit, the delegation presented its preliminary observations to the authorities of the Kingdom of the Netherlands.

Am I missing a link or something? This appears to describe the visits, but does not describe any conclusions nor observations.

Re: Council of Europe anti-torture Committee visits the Netherlands

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> At the end of the visit, the delegation presented its preliminary observations to the authorities of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Am I missing a link or something? This appears to describe the visits, but does not describe any conclusions nor observations.

These are preliminary observations. I expect they are given only to the other party so that it can give a rebuttal, after which the final report is made.

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> At the end of the visit, the delegation presented its preliminary observations to the authorities of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Am I missing a link or something? This appears to describe the visits, but does not describe any conclusions nor observations.

I don't think there is any implication of wrongdoing on the part of the Netherlands, looking at their news feed they seem to visit all European countries on a periodic basis.

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> At the end of the visit, the delegation presented its preliminary observations to the authorities of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Am I missing a link or something? This appears to describe the visits, but does not describe any conclusions nor observations.

For context [0], this is a regular visit, done 18 times a year across the COE's member countries, so for each country roughly every 4 years. (For extra extra context, the COE is a superset of the EU, which while not particularly binding serves more of a United Nations-like purpose, with a focus on human rights, democracy and rule-of-law.)

Intriguingly:

> The CPT [Committee for the Prevention of Torture] does not publish its visit report until the Government of the country concerned requests publication.

The committee encourages states to sign up for an automatic publication procedure for reports, but the Netherlands has not. I suppose this is still news, just more in the general announcement sense to the sort of people who'd regularly keep tabs on the CPT blog.

[0] https://www.coe.int/en/web/cpt/faqs

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> At the end of the visit, the delegation presented its preliminary observations to the authorities of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Am I missing a link or something? This appears to describe the visits, but does not describe any conclusions nor observations.

I agree; somewhat unsatisfying as it stands. Especially since article nearly a month old.

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> At the end of the visit, the delegation presented its preliminary observations to the authorities of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Am I missing a link or something? This appears to describe the visits, but does not describe any conclusions nor observations.

Those reports take some time. You can find past reports for the Netherlands here: https://www.coe.int/en/web/cpt/netherlands

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Maybe they could turn their attention to the US? There are some CIA people in serious need of indictment. Fortunately there is no statute of limitations on torture. We know who they are. It would be a shame to wait until after they are dead.

What do you expect the Council of Europe to do in the US?
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