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The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Hacker news is one of the worst communities on the internet but the headlines are better than most aggregating sites. Though I see more and more postings that also came across my Google news feed so HN is losing a lot of its utility for me. But it's a good place to see where the wind is blowing in terms of the ongoing radicalization of white men.

You are all over this thread being racist and sexist. Not everyone here is white, or men, nor are all the people in the US. You keep crying about white men and fascists while being a complete dick. You even called someone with a good point an FSB employee. Half your comments are flamebait. If you hate it so very much why are you here, much less participating?

Your comment is made almost entirely of personal attacks. Please refrain from making such comments.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” There’s nothing in there about Reddit making moderation policies

You're conflating 1A with free speech. Free speech is the principle that inspires 1A but it's a larger concept and the same reasoning applies to things like reddit. This whole "don't let you political opponents speak or coordinate because you happen to have the power to stop them" is the weapon of a tyrant, one of these days a real tyrant will seize the reins of these platforms and show us all how they're really used…

Parent comment is about “Americans touting their free speech.” First Amendment is obviously what that refers to.

The Internet doesn’t have a limit on the number of web sites. You want to say something, get a $2/month shared hosting plan and post HTML, or lease fiber and run your own server farm, or do any number of things in between.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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I have a different take: The main problem with reddit is in how badly it's bungled its several different redesigns over the last few years, and how it's slowly ruined its users' experience in misguided attempts to drive mobile traffic to its app. Right now, here's the process for browsing a subreddit on mobile without the (ads and tracking loaded) reddit app: 1. Navigate to subreddit. Find out which of two (non-NSFW)…

If you use iPhone, then use Apollo. If you use Android, then Sync. The official apps have always been dire.

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Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Reddit isn’t dead until there is a viable alternative. You can’t have an exodus without a destination

There are plenty of other forums. The other day William Osman just told all his followers to come here because it's "like Reddit used to be" for example.

Any other forums you’d recommend?

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Okay, but you specifically said: >I'd hate to be the one to have to tell the minority picked last that their civil rights isn't scheduled until 2050. Can you give me a specific example related to that, as in, name a minority that hasn't yet had their 'civil rights' granted? Because my take on what's going on kinda aligns with the guy above, there's been a mass push for stuff that isn't any kind of accepted by the gen…

The proud boys did terrorize children and adults at a drag queen story hour this month. https://www.businessinsider.com/why-are-the-proud-boys-so-af... Unless you're complaining about far right terrorism or intentionality divisive mainstream media coverage, you've completely lost me.

Okay, but you specifically said:

>I'd hate to be the one to have to tell the minority picked last that their civil rights isn't scheduled until 2050.

Can you give me a specific example related to that, as in, name a minority that hasn't yet had their 'civil rights' granted?

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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> they were absolutely right They were right only because their goal was to increase the number of users to the largest extent possible. > everyone on Reddit criticized them for it ... and they were also right, because at the time reddit was a community for mostly tech news, similarly to what HN represents now. Creating the subreddits led to the tech part of the community to be splintered and then get more and more w…

Most of my favorite subreddits these days are not tech related, so I stand by my claim that Reddit is better for having distinct communities.

I agree, but sadly besides all the cool communities out there there's an order of magnitude more of them that are a stain and a strain on reasonable discussion.

As a user of reddit I would like to isolate myself from these people as much as possible, which is now somewhat possible by blacklisting subbredits. But sadly the people themselves are vastly over represented in the wider community and having to suffer through chains of memes and hot takes, vitriol and all around non good faith discourse is making me go less and less into the comments of interesting posts because I don't really want to subject myself to all that negativity.

In my opinion, the overall effect is negative, despite the existence of diamonds in the rough communities here and there.

PS. I am saying these things as a long time reddit user and as a dev that tries to build an alternative link aggregator and discussion platform for communities to move to. :D

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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This is pure FUD and very dangerous. Firstly, you're talking about a different sub that what I linked to, grouping these together. The subs I linked are female led and moderated, at least BFHS. Secondly, they also have large numbers of participants from a range of backgrounds with a range of motivations. The subreddits they are discussing tend to have 10s of 1000s of followers actively engaging in various levels of h…

I don't know about the child pornography claim, but the rest of it seems to check out. The user revealed their name in an interview here: https://www.fastcompany.com/3026860/a-brief-rundown-of-the-s... According to one of the sources linked in a sibling comment, this user was arrested for domestic violence. A quick look at their user profile shows they are the top mod of r/garland, which isn't far from where the arre…

Are you saying this single user is manning the sock puppets of everyone involved on /r/BanFemaleHateSubs and also the accounts of the 1000s of men who are, for example, inappropriately touching 1000s of sleeping women?

That's how I read the original comment.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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The proud boys did terrorize children and adults at a drag queen story hour this month. https://www.businessinsider.com/why-are-the-proud-boys-so-af... Unless you're complaining about far right terrorism or intentionality divisive mainstream media coverage, you've completely lost me.

Okay, but you specifically said: >I'd hate to be the one to have to tell the minority picked last that their civil rights isn't scheduled until 2050. Can you give me a specific example related to that, as in, name a minority that hasn't yet had their 'civil rights' granted?

> mental illness (both mild and extreme forms), medical debt, disability, poverty traps, veterans, homeless, prisoners.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Generally anything that does not fit the ideologies of a typical reddit mod, and yes they will have certain belief systems, as most people do not have the time or desire to be moderating even for a few hours a day for no monetary rewards, which the average reddit mod sort of needs to have. This is why reddit leans heavily socialist/communist/anti-capitalist (moderated by people who believe moderating for free is more…

I think you are conflating normal people having normal opinions with some kind of conspiracy that simply doesn't exist.

Other forums do not suffer from this particular political lean. Reddit mods in particular are known for authoritarian ban hammering because its the only way to quiet ideas that go against their worldview, and they often approach it as a holy war that they should control the information that is visible to the public eye so they can protect the public for them, and that the public themselves are unable to decide what is right or wrong by themselves. Political discussion is often so skewed on reddit the term hive mind is not only a term used to describe the website userbase, but also observable in real time.

Hacker news doesn't suffer from this, thankfully, the moderators do not think its appropriate to manipulate or outright silence any viewpoints dangerous to the reputation of their ideologies. Which is why we're allowed to have these types of discussions here in the first place. On reddit, however, I have written statements that have been moderated away I presume "for the safety of the public" as if the public could not decide on its own. Don't assume that everybody on the planet agrees with that kind of sentiment. Go out there and talk to your right wing nutjob friends. They have differing opinions. Just because you don't see them on reddit doesn't mean they don't exist, nor that they are not normal people with normal opinions either.

You can label it a conspiracy theory if you want. But that doesn't eliminate the presence of the facts from which the conspiracy theories have arisen, nor does it eliminate the the presence of covered up removal of those facts for the sake of engineering truth.

You are just unaware of the world beyond the veil of your lived experiences. But it doesn't help that your emotions are so tied to your defense of your ego.

Re: The fall of Reddit: Why it’s quickly declining into chaos

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Generally anything that does not fit the ideologies of a typical reddit mod, and yes they will have certain belief systems, as most people do not have the time or desire to be moderating even for a few hours a day for no monetary rewards, which the average reddit mod sort of needs to have. This is why reddit leans heavily socialist/communist/anti-capitalist (moderated by people who believe moderating for free is more…

If that were true, any human activity done without monetary reward would be dominated by socialists/communist.

And that is generally true. Whats your point exactly? Since we're here, what are some examples of this not being true? And again, whats your point?
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