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Re: Basement Fertility

#41
A Typical WEIRD (western, educated, industrialised, rich, democratic) finding. For much of human history children have been raised in multi-generational homes. Just being raised by parents is relatively new. I recall reading in a book [0] that proposes this as one of the reasons we have such an issue with mental health etc. with our children. This also seriously hampers learning as wisdom is not passed down.

[0] free to play

Re: Basement Fertility

#42

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If I were a woman, there is no way I would entertain the idea of having kids without my name on the title or lease of the house.

And if I were a man, there's no way I would just let a house become marital property if I owned it outright before the marriage, especially considering how family courts screw men over. That's a surefire way to homelessness, unless you are very (SV engineer or doctor) rich.

Why is this comment downvoted? It's literally what goes through the minds of parents of newly weds and weds-to-be. Let's not beat around the bush and be upfront about it.

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I'd love an economic system that championed efficiency over growth.

I've seen arguments that almost all of the economic growth over the last 100+ years is directly attributable to population growth and very little else.

Source? That would imply total factor productivity didn't grow at all "over the last 100+ years", which seems doubtful given all the innovations brought about during that time period.

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#44
It feels like there's an implicit "More Kids Good" tone that pervades this. What's the "right" value for TFR? Why does it have to be higher? Why is it bad that it is lower in some places?

The ecosystem we exist in / that sustains us surely has a carrying capacity.

Re: Basement Fertility

#45
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As was said by rossdavidh in the comments, "eyeballing the maps, I don't see a great correlation". I suspect this might have something to do with perception of supportive community rather than actual numbers. When to-be parents feel like they are on their own and neither $jobPeople, $friendlyPeople nor $familyPeople are actually going to help, they might be inclined to postpone. Living with parents in a sane multi-ge…

I want to add a personal anecdote. I recently moved out at 26. Before moving out I couldn't imagine bringing a girl home. You need space and privacy to mate.

I certainly want to live closer to my parents but the multi-generational arrangement needs to provide space to live in, I can't share the same flat my parents are living in, come on it's too small.

The problem is having a private space, not living with parents. If parents can provide a flat with a seperate entry, even that would work.

Re: Basement Fertility

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And if I were a man, there's no way I would just let a house become marital property if I owned it outright before the marriage, especially considering how family courts screw men over. That's a surefire way to homelessness, unless you are very (SV engineer or doctor) rich.

Why is this comment downvoted? It's literally what goes through the minds of parents of newly weds and weds-to-be. Let's not beat around the bush and be upfront about it.

Off topic. GP and the response from female POV are regarding living in the elders’ house, not the husbands house.

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Public pensions are pretty much gone these days, for better or worse. I don't think an inverted pyramid is as bad as it sounds. It's a check against ageism and falling wages (there's no longer a horde of hungry young people who want the jobs) and, given how little of the work people do is actually necessary--white-collar jobs are 85% sending passive-aggressive emails--I think society can afford it. It might be the on…

> Public pensions are pretty much gone these days, for better or worse. Taxpayer funded (which is what “public” generally means) pensions are basically the only defined benefit pensions left in the US. I do not know of a single city, county, state, or federal government that has gotten rid of them, especially not for cops.

“public pensions” usually refers to schemes like social security in the US.

“public employee pensions” are a different thing.

(But neither is gone, in general or in the US, though more and more government employee positions in the US are relying more on defined contribution retirement plans and less on defined benefit pensions.)

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#48

It feels like there's an implicit "More Kids Good" tone that pervades this. What's the "right" value for TFR? Why does it have to be higher? Why is it bad that it is lower in some places? The ecosystem we exist in / that sustains us surely has a carrying capacity.

2.1 is the right value. That's replacement rate. Anything above is subject to healthy debate.

Re: Basement Fertility

#49

After World War II a lot of public housing projects popped up, which were nice communities for working class families. Nowadays this is almost forgotten as public housing has been starved for decades, and is only thought of in most communities as synonymous with poverty and crime. This is the direction the United States went in but not all countries. Public housing funded as it was in the New Deal era can solve this…

Public housing using new construction technologies, I think this is the answer. Let's build cheap high-rise buildings. We can expand vertically why not use it.

Re: Basement Fertility

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I were a woman, there is no way I would entertain the idea of having kids without my name on the title or lease of the house.

And if I were a man, there's no way I would just let a house become marital property if I owned it outright before the marriage, especially considering how family courts screw men over. That's a surefire way to homelessness, unless you are very (SV engineer or doctor) rich.

That is an issue for each couple to work through themselves, but I was more alluding to inhabiting a home belonging to your partner’s parents, not to your partner.
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