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Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by as1992 »

Based on my own experience as a SWE (Working with a previous company up until May 2022, job searching from Feb 2022 , and now at a new company)

The vast majority of companies are willing to hire remote, but a lot only within locations they have the legal means to do so (eg. Legal entity, contract with Deel or other company). It seemed during 2020/early 2021 people were saying it was going to be a "global job market", which in my understanding meant you could get a job in any country in the world, easy.

While it's true in my experience you can get a job in any country in the world, it's not that easy. A lot of companies do not want to hire outside areas they have a legal entity in, Eg. a company has an office in Paris, they'll hire remotely anywhere in France, but good luck if you're based in Spain.

Companies that will hire most anywhere are far and few between, and generally from what I've seen are smaller, startup/small business sized companies.

Take the above with a pinch of salt as that is purely my own experience, and could be bias based on what I was looking for.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by bobthepanda »

goodpoint wrote: post #79
CoffeeOnWrite wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm happy for you! Out of curiosity, did your current housing situation provide the space for a comfortable and productive home office, or is this unexpected development putting pressure on your housing situation? (If you're part of a trend, that has implications for preferred housing layout and square footage. And, of course people in different housing situations should be expected to respond differently to fully-re…

> perceived status implications when my humble abode appears I would rather focus on the quality of someone's work than "status". Also, you can't find a "neutral" wall or window in 600sq?!

At such square footage I would imagine most wall space is taken up by furniture.

Window is kinda bad since direct light makes cameras bad.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by phpisthebest »

as1992 wrote: post #91

Based on my own experience as a SWE (Working with a previous company up until May 2022, job searching from Feb 2022 , and now at a new company) The vast majority of companies are willing to hire remote, but a lot only within locations they have the legal means to do so (eg. Legal entity, contract with Deel or other company). It seemed during 2020/early 2021 people were saying it was going to be a "global job market",…

"global job market" generally means contract labor, not direct hired employees

Either individually contract, or via a 3rd party firm like Tata, or Infosys

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by zelphirkalt »

In Europe here. Still working remotely. Saves me tons of time. We get our stuff done. Recently had a few days office work, which was OK for a workshop, but I wouldn't want to have it every day or even most days of the week, because of the loss of time.

There is a voluntary office day now and I'll try to make it work. I hope it stays voluntary and does not become mandatory.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by jrochkind1 »

jelling wrote: post #37

For some hard data, in San Francisco and NYC, the mass transit agencies are starting to plan for never getting back to full ridership again. And by plan, I mean starting to ask for federal funding to keep the systems alive (which I think they should) because the fare revenue is never going to return to pre-pandemic levels but the physical plant remains just as expensive to operate. Keep in mind: these are two of the…

> commutes are shorter vs an exurb type

I'm not sure about that. People i know in NYC typically spend as much time commuting as in any other city I've known, if not more. It's a big city, and because of the nature of public transportation (or traffic) it takes a while to move across it.

NYC is also, of course, a place where office space is more expensive than most other places -- employer choices could be effecting this as much as employee choices.

But I don't disagree with your general conclusion, as a general sense of things. I don't think NYC and San Francisco are the especially driving examples though.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by alldayeveryday »

ragnot wrote: post #70

We are still full remote and I don't think anyone has any intention to go back to "in-person" honestly. As a side note: I think the reason you are going to find so much friction with this is for the first time in recent history "workers" (specifically software engineers) have incredible leverage over management. I honestly don't think we've seen this since the days of labor unions. Think about it: software engineers…

In a similar position - we went fully remote and have stayed that way. I do sense from the c-suite that they would love to get people back into office - I think driven more than anything by distrust of their workforce.

Re: engineers having leverage I am keen to see if this changes in the coming months. With so many layoffs will come more competition for each open role. Do we hit a point where there are more unemployed software engineers VS open engineering roles? Time will tell. If we do hit that point employers may go back to having leverage to dictate office.

As an aside, I really dislike recruiters who deceive you during recruiting. Both my wife and I have had recruiters tell us a company was allowing fully remote or hybrid, just to find out the actual policy is 3,4 days a week in office.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by swader999 »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #90
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've worked remote for a long time. It's very common to see people working from their home bedrooms. First-time remote workers will often overthink their office, but seasoned remote workers don't really care. It's worth taking a minute to tidy up the room in your background, but nobody is going to be judging you for not having a dedicated home office. > I'm also a manager. My workspace needs for desk layout, equipmen…

Oh, I wouldn't think anyone would judge me, especially these days (plus there's blurred backgrounds etc). But a separate room I use for work helps me keep work separate from personal life when working from home. If I didn't have/couldn't afford that, I'd at least have a separate desk I use only for work. If not that either... it would be harder for me.

They'll judge you poorly for spotty or slow internet on calls more than the background of your home office.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by sdevonoes »

I just joined a new company fully remote. Been working in a fully remote company during COVID. I receive offers in Linkedin where 70% of them are fully remote and the rest are hybrid (I don't receive offers which are 100% on site. Funny). So, I think fully remote is winning so far. This in Europe.

Re: Ask HN: How is the remote vs in-person trend looking?

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Post by protomyth »

Non-tech community college: We went back to the office last year except for some faculty that are still remote. Some of the classes are online and some in person. Classes with young mothers tend to move to 9PM at night.

I am starting to look for alternate setups to the traditional laptop for faculty. We used a webcam that had a flexible stand for the beadwork class to show the actual work up close. Testing a multi-camera setup with Blackmagic Design STEM mini with larger screen (TV of some type) and better cameras with document camera (think old overhead) and maybe a flexible close-up camera for craft work. I am firmly convinced that laptops are a poor meeting experience for presenters.

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