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‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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Re: ‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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Post by thefringthing »

sandworm101 wrote: post #360
nico wrote: post #91

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There is also the failed attempt of Jodorowsky to make a Dune movie: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodorowsky's_Dune https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(novel)#Early_stalled_a... The documentary is pretty fascinating. Jodorowsky managed to put together a stellar team, among them H.R. Giger, Dalí and the script writer who would later write Alien.

Dune is unmakable. Always will be. It is the definitive book that is too big for the screen. The story and themes are too vast. Adaptations can be good, be entertaining, but every one is a shallow attempt at the impossible.

I think the TV mini-series is very good.

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ivolimmen wrote: post #325
deltaonefour wrote: post #95

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There are three things that are important to the movie. - Pacing so you don't get bored. - Thematic depth - Atmosphere A lot of pretentious people like to ignore pacing as if their brains are made up of pure IQ and anything related excitement is beneath them. Make no mistake, we are all human and we all get bored. Pacing is important and it takes a lot of effort (and intelligence) for a director to maintain that leve…

Ultra slow? Have you seen "2001: A Space Odyssey"?

Yeah. The pacing on that is even worse.

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Post by deltaonefour »

kennywinker wrote: post #327
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>That's not an argument, that's a conclusion without any supporting arguments. Dismissed as nonsense as easily as posited without effort. This is HN not nature. It's not a scientific debtate, just a general conversation so the level of proof is not super high. You just have to trust me that I'm born in China, and Fantasy is not Wuxia. Just like you would have to trust a black person when he says he's not white. Don't…

I’m going to jump in here because I started this fight (tho i’d never heard the term wuxia before so maybe I’m unqualified) - but here we go - from the wikipedia definition of fantasy: > Fantasy is distinguished from the genres of science fiction and horror by the respective absence of scientific or macabre themes, although these genres overlap So perhaps I was overly dismissive. Narratively, it seems to me that star…

It's not a fight, it's a discussion.

The magic stuff actually has (or had) sort of a background explanation based in "science" so overall I would say it's more sci-fi.

In many cases I would even argue genres like sci-fi and fantasy don't involve the plot at all. These genres exclusively refer to the setting.

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Post by imwillofficial »

guessmyname wrote: post #338
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Those are the same picture

> Those are the same picture Not the same picture. Same frame, but different colours. If you can’t see the defence, you may want to recalibrate your display.

It was a joke.

But on topic, I think “ruin” is too strong. But subjective experience with art is at the core of the concept.

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Post by mercutio2 »

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I have to ask then, what films do you like better than Interstellar?

My view is a little more negative because of all the hype it gets but only a little. It's just a bad movie. SPOILER WARNING To understand the plot structure (such that it is) in Interstellar, you have to start with the writer's desire for the emotional ending of the main character with his daughter, who is now old. Everything that happens in the movie is a really forced way to reach that outcome. The whole watch time…

Odd. I didn’t like interstellar either, but time dilation in the vicinity of a supermassive black hole is way, way less controversial than being able to build a wormhole large enough for a ship to get through.

Possibly you’re confusing stellar mass black holes and super massive black holes?

Time dilation doesn’t only occur at high velocities, so your link focusing entirely on velocity is accurate, but I think not really relevant.

The physics was pretty reasonable for the time dilation. Possibly off by an order of magnitude or so, but not ridiculous on its face.

Except for the wormhole.

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scott_s wrote: post #253
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The BR that I watched was more that an atmospheric sci-fi flic. It was an epic parable of the human condition. In the beginning it juxtaposes humans and replicants, but what you're supposed to realise along the way is that the life of a replicant is just an accelerated version of a human life: However long or short a lease on life you have been given, the common factor is that it is limited, and what matters is not w…

In the sequel, Deckard is human. I feel it reinforces your take on the first.

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Post by tuatoru »

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I've tried to watch the movie multiple times, always get bored in the beginning and abort early. Once tried to watching with a friend and we were both bored fairly quickly. To be fair I don't watch movies / TV shows often because I have a low attention span for this stuff, but this is a movie I really wanted to like because I love the genre, but it's too slow paced for me. I do know that pacing was generally slower i…

It's a boring movie. It's not a very good plot (and even has some weird coincidental plot holes). But I think it's well regarded because of the world building, set design, costumes, and music.

Spot on. Not a movie to watch for the plot. True to the source in this. With Philip K. Dick's novels, reading for the "story" alone is totally missing the point.

Same for the Prime TV series, The Man in the High Castle. Again, true to the source in that the plot is moth-eaten lacework, but who cares? The world-building is great.

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Post by anotherman554 »

munch117 wrote: post #312
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In the sequel, Deckard is human. I feel it reinforces your take on the first.

I'm glad to hear it. I may watch the sequel now. Maybe the rumors I heard was an intentional mislead.

The reply saying Deckard is human in the sequel is wrong. In the sequel Deckard says he does not know if he is human and does not care. That is the only time the topic comes up.

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Post by QuizzicalCarbon »

candiddevmike wrote: post #150
aresant wrote: post #23

The visual language Bladerunner invented has virtually defined SciFi for the past 40 years. If you enjoy it's worth digging into the work Syd Mead - the film's concept artist - created: https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/5642443624/in/... https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/5642443252/in/... https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/5641873923/in/... https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_…

Can anyone recommend some music that has the same vibe as Blade Runner's synth stuff?

Vangelis’ own Chariots of Fire and 1492 are exceptional scores.

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Post by miki_tyler »

rastignack wrote: post #127
nico wrote: post #91

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There is also the failed attempt of Jodorowsky to make a Dune movie: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodorowsky's_Dune https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(novel)#Early_stalled_a... The documentary is pretty fascinating. Jodorowsky managed to put together a stellar team, among them H.R. Giger, Dalí and the script writer who would later write Alien.

Don’t forget moebius

Moebius and Giger were the Wozniaks, Jodorowsky was a mere Steve Jobs.
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