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Re: Blood pressure e-tattoo promises continuous, mobile monitoring

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For any biohackers out there with electronics and sensor skills, there is another easier, cheaper viable way to continuously monitor blood pressure: earlobe

There have been some academic experiments with good results but apparently manufacturers don't believe consumers would accept it. Athletes and elderly sure would.

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For me, on the other hand, weight loss didn't do anything for my blood pressure. I was averaging around 160/90 on 3 or 4 different medicines [1] before losing weight. Then I lost around 45 kb (100 pounds) and kept it off...and there was no noticeable change in blood pressure. Triglycerides and bad cholesterol levels plummeted, getting me completely off medicine for those. A1c dropped to 5 with no medication from over…

Oh man. Now that I read this, I feel like I’m an idiot. Of course I forgot to mention that while I was eating less I ALSO started taking walks outside for at least 30 minutes every day. Now I’m not sure if weight loss was the core reason for my bp going down.

Either way, you’re winning.

Re: Blood pressure e-tattoo promises continuous, mobile monitoring

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My personal anecdata, I would like to share: I developed blood pressure problems last year (140-160/85-95). My doc told me I needed to start meds. I didn't want to though. So in January, I started reducing my Caloric intake. I lost 7 kilos, down from 83kg to 76kg (I am 1.70m tall). My blood pressure went down to (110-120/60-75). No meds required. Just ate less.

Oh God, you just reminded me I should really get to it. I'm also 1,70 and been averaging 84kg for the last few years, I'm in my mid-30's btw... Losing weight is so hard when you have zero passion for sport and nutrition...

I need to get one of them fitness trackers, people seems to praise them quite a lot.

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Many people who are overweight, do not want to be overweight and have tried everything they can to lose weight. IMO, "eat less and exercise" is great advice, but it depends on a very specific set of preconditions to work. Mental health, affordable and easy access to nutritious and non-poisonous food (such as, vegetables that actually contain the micro-nutrients needed to survive, food that is free from mix-ins that c…

I don't disagree that it's more difficult for some people than for others, but ultimately it's as simple as calories in In a lot of cases a truly healthy diet is cheaper than the tasty but atrociously unhealthy "cheap" foods. Yes, you do sacrifice some variety and flavor, but it's more than doable. The world isn't fair. That sucks, and I'm all for working to change that, but until that change comes we have to accept…

> It's much easier to throw your hands up when you're told over and over again that it's not your fault and is all the cause of immutable externalities.

No, it's not. There's nothing about recognizing a challenge that says that you cannot keep trying to overcome it.

It's just as easy to throw your hands up when someone is unsympathetic and calls people who have compassion 'SJWs' and you are buried in shame. For some people, yes, some amount of shame can be a motivator. For others it works the opposite way and results in a vicious cycle of self-treatment for depression with food. Poor mental health can be a much more pressing and existential threat than being overweight.

Listen. We know for sure that the gut biome can trigger the release of neurotransmitters via the vast cluster of neurons in the digestive system. That is: bacteria in your gut can directly affect your mood if you don't eat the food they want you to eat. Like it or not, we are electrochemical machines, not little ghosts piloting spaceships.

I have a friend who is a healthy weight, has a flat stomach and is regarded as very attractive. She eats the absolute worst food: hot pockets, pizza rolls and candy. But, in public, no one assumes she eats junk food. No one tells her to lose weight or to eat less. No one makes a disgusted face at her if she goes to the gym.

On the other hand, imagine someone obese eating at McDonalds once a week while still maintaining a calorie deficit for the day. What kind of looks, assumptions and comments do you think that person will get when they are eating fries? Do you think that is motivating? Do you think people who want you to treat that person as a human are SJWs? Why is SJW an insult to you anyway? Because people care about other people too much? Because you doubt the sincerity of people who publicly make an effort?

Re: Blood pressure e-tattoo promises continuous, mobile monitoring

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I'm sure parts of the body mod/biohacking community are already working on it. People are already doing things like embedding RFID into their hands. When I read the headline I thought they had somehow managed to get an actual tattoo to respond to blood pressure changes through the pressure itself, similar to how the cells in Octopi change colour.

my actual tattoo reacts to something (allergens?) occasionally and raises up (I can feel the lines when i touch it). i can imagine that an electronic tattoo of some sort would feel really strange. I almost embedded an RFID a few years back but chickened out.

What colour is your tattoo? I was hearing that red ink can especially be a source of these kinds of skin problems because of the presence of small amounts of mercury in it [1]

[1] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/tattoo-ink-mercur...

Re: Blood pressure e-tattoo promises continuous, mobile monitoring

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I never considered doing a tattoo, but this looks like a great idea.

As for decorative tattoos, I'll wait for e-paper version, so I can change it when I want to.

And yes I know this beats the purpose of a tattoo being something permanent, but, if I ever do something like that, I'll be forever an Etch-a-Sketch

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I find that my pattern of breathing has a massive effect on my blood pressure. If I slow my breathing, I can have a large drop from 135/60 to 110/60 (my bottom number is always quite low but my top number can go high). Since discovering this, I’ve seen some articles about how slow exhalation stimulates the vagus nerve which causes a drop in blood pressure, which offers an explanation.

Highly recommend reading James Nestor's Breath [1]. There is an incredible body of breathing modalities from ancient to modern. James does an incredible job of presenting a non-biased journey through it with a dose of humility and a childlike sense of awe. I finally got my Wimhof practice on track after it.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Breath-New-Science-Lost-Art/dp/073521...

Re: Blood pressure e-tattoo promises continuous, mobile monitoring

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My personal anecdata, I would like to share: I developed blood pressure problems last year (140-160/85-95). My doc told me I needed to start meds. I didn't want to though. So in January, I started reducing my Caloric intake. I lost 7 kilos, down from 83kg to 76kg (I am 1.70m tall). My blood pressure went down to (110-120/60-75). No meds required. Just ate less.

Works for some. I have family members with no excess body weight - bmi in the single digits - and high blood pressure.

There are like 50 variables. Weight is a big one, but not the only one.

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