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Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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Post by prmoustache »

themitigating wrote: post #15
rob74 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That Canada is also located in America, and if someone from Canada identifies "America" with the US they are belittling their own country? I mean, the sentence wouldn't have been less understandable if they had used "US-style" instead of "American-style"?

Everyone uses the term "America" to the US and even if they are referring to the both continents they say "The Americas". There isn't even a contient named "America"

I know a number of mexican people who hate that dubious automatic America / USA association.

Re: Amazon is intimidating and harassing organizing workers in Montreal

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Post by djbebs »

jmyeet wrote: post #6

It's a testament to how effective propaganda can be when you see how easily you can get people to vote against their own interests. It's crazy to me that anyone who works in these Amazon warehouses votes agains tunionization but they do [1]. Even in the successful vote, there were still a lot of "no" votes. Unionization in the US is the lowest of all OECD nations (~10%) [2]. Is it any wonder US workers don't get paid…

I would never join a union.

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Post by rob74 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #11
themitigating wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's incorrect but widely assumed that if someone says "America" they mean the USA. What's funny about it?

There's nothing incorrect about the fact that "American" refers specifically to the USA. Compare this wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans > Americans are the citizens and nationals of the United States of America.

Okay, TIL. However, if you look at the "language versions" of that Wikipedia page, that also explains my confusion:

Deutsch: "US-Amerikaner" Español: "Estadounidense" Italiano: "Statunitensi" ...

so there are plenty of languages that do make a distinction between "American living on the American continent(s)" and "American from the US". Full disclosure: I'm from Germany...

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Post by geysersam »

chrisseaton wrote: post #16
geysersam wrote: post #12

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Whatever their interests are, they will be easier to achieve by unionizing. Not organizing only makes your interests irrelevant. That can hardly be in anyones own interests.

> Whatever their interests are, they will be easier to achieve by unionizing. For example, say you're a talented younger worker and the majority of the union votes for pay by seniority, that's going against your interests.

Being in the union means you have a chance to influence those kinds of decisions.

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Post by dementiapatie »

jmyeet wrote: post #6

It's a testament to how effective propaganda can be when you see how easily you can get people to vote against their own interests. It's crazy to me that anyone who works in these Amazon warehouses votes agains tunionization but they do [1]. Even in the successful vote, there were still a lot of "no" votes. Unionization in the US is the lowest of all OECD nations (~10%) [2]. Is it any wonder US workers don't get paid…

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Post by meatsauce »

jmyeet wrote: post #6

It's a testament to how effective propaganda can be when you see how easily you can get people to vote against their own interests. It's crazy to me that anyone who works in these Amazon warehouses votes agains tunionization but they do [1]. Even in the successful vote, there were still a lot of "no" votes. Unionization in the US is the lowest of all OECD nations (~10%) [2]. Is it any wonder US workers don't get paid…

Why do leftists believe they have the right to tell others what their interests are?

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Post by meatsauce »

geysersam wrote: post #12
fallingknife wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe it's you who has fallen for propaganda. I think it's most likely that they know their own interests better than you do.

Whatever their interests are, they will be easier to achieve by unionizing. Not organizing only makes your interests irrelevant. That can hardly be in anyones own interests.

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Post by ok123456 »

meatsauce wrote: post #26
jmyeet wrote: post #6

It's a testament to how effective propaganda can be when you see how easily you can get people to vote against their own interests. It's crazy to me that anyone who works in these Amazon warehouses votes agains tunionization but they do [1]. Even in the successful vote, there were still a lot of "no" votes. Unionization in the US is the lowest of all OECD nations (~10%) [2]. Is it any wonder US workers don't get paid…

Why do leftists believe they have the right to tell others what their interests are?

The have an interest in not being given demerits for using the bathroom (aka: "time off task")

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Post by viraptor »

dementiapatie wrote: post #25
jmyeet wrote: post #6

It's a testament to how effective propaganda can be when you see how easily you can get people to vote against their own interests. It's crazy to me that anyone who works in these Amazon warehouses votes agains tunionization but they do [1]. Even in the successful vote, there were still a lot of "no" votes. Unionization in the US is the lowest of all OECD nations (~10%) [2]. Is it any wonder US workers don't get paid…

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Both the highest and lowest performing co-worker have some shared needs and goals. The article mentions a few of them (for example toilet break time and respecting safety protocols). Keep in mind that the highest performing person is one minor injury away from being below average for a very long time.

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Post by user3939382 »

jmyeet wrote: post #6

It's a testament to how effective propaganda can be when you see how easily you can get people to vote against their own interests. It's crazy to me that anyone who works in these Amazon warehouses votes agains tunionization but they do [1]. Even in the successful vote, there were still a lot of "no" votes. Unionization in the US is the lowest of all OECD nations (~10%) [2]. Is it any wonder US workers don't get paid…

Some vote no because they fear retaliation if the vote fails.
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