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‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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"The main difference between what Ridley views this all in terms of and what I view it all in terms of is as follows. To me, the replicants (or androids, if you will) are deplorable because [inaudible] they are cold, they are selfish, they are heartless, they are completely self-centered, they have no empathy, they don't care about what happens to other creatures, and to me this is essentially a less-than-human entit…

Good quote. For me what distinguishes the film and makes it better than the original story is exactly the elevation of the replicants into fully sentient beings. Batty started out as a grifter in the original and became the center of the story in Ridley Scott's film.

I was surprised that the question of sentience and what it means to be a human was actually less pronounced in the original story than in the film. I would have expected something more challenging (if that's the right word) from Dick.

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The visual language Bladerunner invented has virtually defined SciFi for the past 40 years. If you enjoy it's worth digging into the work Syd Mead - the film's concept artist - created: https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/5642443624/in/... https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/5642443252/in/... https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/5641873923/in/... https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_…

I tried to impress my 11 year old with the opening sequence; flames belching over LA, Vangelis, etc. -- which I've always found aesthetically stunning. He was not impressed. This made me sad.

I was very unimpressed when I watched it as a kid, blown away when I was older.

Re: ‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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> Jodorowsky I recently got a copy of this and could only come to the conclusion that they were doing a lot of drugs in the 1970s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_(1973_film)

If you think Jodorowsky's Dune was weird, you should see his Holy Mountain [1] Also, millions of people did a lot of drugs in that time, but there is only one Jodorowsky. Drugs alone can not explain his vision. [1] - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qmR0vi0ifzE

Yes. That's the movie the comment you responded to was talking about.

Did you even read the comment before responding?

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>And, decades before Elon Musk looked set to take over the world, Blade Runner’s Tyrell Corporation (and indeed, Alien’s Weyland-Yutani) was inspiring evil empires (...)

These journos just can't help themselves, can they. Why are you so willfully blind to all the other much worse ways the world is already "taken over" and focus so much on mean twitter man.

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> Jodorowsky I recently got a copy of this and could only come to the conclusion that they were doing a lot of drugs in the 1970s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_(1973_film)

Holy Mountain is hilarious. I always think about the scene where the President's advisor says they need to kill millions of people to save the economy lol

Truth is stranger than fiction.

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The visual language Bladerunner invented has virtually defined SciFi for the past 40 years. If you enjoy it's worth digging into the work Syd Mead - the film's concept artist - created: https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/5642443624/in/... https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/5642443252/in/... https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/5641873923/in/... https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_…

Can anyone recommend some music that has the same vibe as Blade Runner's synth stuff?

Anything else by Vangelis. He died a few weeks ago but his music will likely live on for a long, long time. Try: Soil Festivities (personal favorite), Spiral, and Jon & Vangelis.

Other artists: Johan Timman, John Kerr (Moon). Brian Eno.

Re: ‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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"The main difference between what Ridley views this all in terms of and what I view it all in terms of is as follows. To me, the replicants (or androids, if you will) are deplorable because [inaudible] they are cold, they are selfish, they are heartless, they are completely self-centered, they have no empathy, they don't care about what happens to other creatures, and to me this is essentially a less-than-human entit…

>they are cold, they are selfish, they are heartless, they are completely self-centered, they have no empathy, they don't care about what happens to other creatures Are we sure that there aren’t a lot of replicants walking around already?

No one has any ability to ontologically confirm anything about themselves, no not even the cogito.

In fact, blade runner I claim is a movie whose entire message is trying to undo the philosophical cuckerey that Descartes unleashed upon us all

Re: ‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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Ron Cobb is my absolute favorite "hidden influence" on how 70s-80s sci-fi/fantasy turned out. He was a designer on Dark Star, Alien, Star Wars, Conan the Barbarian and even the unproduced Dune helmed by Jodorowsky that has become a shibboleth with some nerds.

Nothing he did felt dogmatic, referential or with ego, it was just the most appropriate thing for those productions.

Even though he didn't work on Blade Runner, I'm sure a lot of the esthetic comes indirectly from him.

Re: ‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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The visual language Bladerunner invented has virtually defined SciFi for the past 40 years. If you enjoy it's worth digging into the work Syd Mead - the film's concept artist - created: https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/5642443624/in/... https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/5642443252/in/... https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_one/5641873923/in/... https://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray_delta_…

Can anyone recommend some music that has the same vibe as Blade Runner's synth stuff?

Actually Blade Runner is actually pretty much it's own music genre. Hop onto Bandcamp, and you'll find a lot of indie electronic artists (mostly German as far as I can tell) making music that sounds like Vangelis' Blade Runner synth stuff (less so for the non synth stuff).

- https://the-rosen-corporation.bandcamp.com/album/neon-lovers

- https://christopheleusiau.bandcamp.com/album/a-tribute-to-bl...

- https://ogresound.bandcamp.com/album/off-world

- https://siddharthabarnhoorn.bandcamp.com/album/tears-in-the-...

- https://breather1.bandcamp.com/album/the-noodle-bar

Re: ‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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Can anyone recommend some music that has the same vibe as Blade Runner's synth stuff?

Kuedo's severant album has a very similar DNA. intense, sleek synth driven but still melancholic and familiar https://open.spotify.com/track/6tjTQ95h4TOHvB1VzhYvKJ?si=anq...

Thank you. This is excellent.
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