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‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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Re: ‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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Post by imwillofficial »

kirevmaco wrote: post #322
Jaruzel wrote: post #309

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I tend to recommend to people who've not seen it, to watch the Theatrical Cut first. Then watch The Final Cut, and keeping watching The Final Cut, and never re-watch the Theatrical. The Theatrical Cut obviously adds the narration, which for first-timers helps with the comprehension. However once you know the story. The Final Cut is just pure bliss and I never tire of it.

The Final Cut of the movie ruins the original look of the film. I'm amazed more people haven't commented on this. For example, compare the shot of the outside of Chew's lab: Theatrical and Director's Cut versions: http://www.metabunker.dk/wp-content/uploads/br_dc_chew.jpg Final Cut version: http://www.metabunker.dk/wp-content/uploads/br_fc_chew.jpg See [1] and [2] for more. [1] http://www.metabunker.dk/?p=1220 [2] ht…

Those are the same picture

Re: ‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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Post by d0mine »

ncmncm wrote: post #259
__d wrote: post #236

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It mocks itself more than enough. It needs no help from me.

Mocking itself was its whole point.

It _appears_ to mock itself, so it wouldn't be blamed for fascist's propaganda while being essentially a recrutement tool for US military.

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Post by kennywinker »

exodust wrote: post #326
kennywinker wrote: post #129

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Listen, if I've managed to get this far without discounting the movie despite the blatant and jarring non-consensual sex scene presented as a love scene, I'm not about to let some mild xenophobia stop me. Some of my favorite pieces of art are deeply flawed. What's important is understanding what ideas they contain, so you don't just uncritically and subconsciously believe those ideas. The xenophobia in cyberpunk idea…

> non-consensual sex scene In Blade Runner? I don't recall that... don't they kiss, and then it cuts to next scene. They still have their clothes on, standing by the door!

You can watch it if you’ve got the stomach for it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IjO8wsjPqbg

It’s… unpleasant, at best.

But you’re right it’s not exactly a “sex” scene, since any sex is implied

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Post by lloeki »

KerrAvon wrote: post #228
hybridtupel wrote: post #168

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I just saw the movie for the first time and had quite some expectations. It was the directors cut. And while the overall setting was interesting and there were quite good scenes in it, for me it was just too long and I found it quite boring. Mainly the awfully stretched fight at the end put me off. Not sure if I should or want to revisit it after some time. As I also did not really find the sequel that convincing. Bu…

If you read Snow Crash before Neuromancer, you'll be bored by Neuromancer.

This is what I did, and I wasn't.

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Post by brtkdotse »

rajman187 wrote: post #311
nico wrote: post #91

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There is also the failed attempt of Jodorowsky to make a Dune movie: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodorowsky's_Dune https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(novel)#Early_stalled_a... The documentary is pretty fascinating. Jodorowsky managed to put together a stellar team, among them H.R. Giger, Dalí and the script writer who would later write Alien.

It must be crazy for Jodorowsky to see how his concept art defined so much of space sci fi , at least this was the angle presented in the documentary. But imagine the treasure trove George Lucas must have come across

Jodorowskys Dune is the Xerox Parc of movies.

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Post by WalterBright »

jahnu wrote: post #314
majormajor wrote: post #268

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Even without leaving Scott, Alien seems to have been at least as visually influential as Blade Runner. Plus of course Star Wars and Star Trek... Blade Runner is fairly distinctive even today (outside of Cyberpunk, most other post-82 sci fi that I can think of is definitely more influenced by other things) which IMO is a sign that it isn't as universally influential as other 70s/80s sci-fi films. Off the top of my hea…

And of course Alien got a few things from Dark Star https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Star_(film) https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/looking-back-at-john-carpen...

Dolittle: What is your purpose?

Bomb: To explode, of course!

Great dialog trumps expensive special effects every time.

Re: ‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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Post by lordfoom »

kirevmaco wrote: post #322
Jaruzel wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tend to recommend to people who've not seen it, to watch the Theatrical Cut first. Then watch The Final Cut, and keeping watching The Final Cut, and never re-watch the Theatrical. The Theatrical Cut obviously adds the narration, which for first-timers helps with the comprehension. However once you know the story. The Final Cut is just pure bliss and I never tire of it.

The Final Cut of the movie ruins the original look of the film. I'm amazed more people haven't commented on this. For example, compare the shot of the outside of Chew's lab: Theatrical and Director's Cut versions: http://www.metabunker.dk/wp-content/uploads/br_dc_chew.jpg Final Cut version: http://www.metabunker.dk/wp-content/uploads/br_fc_chew.jpg See [1] and [2] for more. [1] http://www.metabunker.dk/?p=1220 [2] ht…

Director's cut all the way :)

Re: ‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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Post by guessmyname »

imwillofficial wrote: post #331
kirevmaco wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Final Cut of the movie ruins the original look of the film. I'm amazed more people haven't commented on this. For example, compare the shot of the outside of Chew's lab: Theatrical and Director's Cut versions: http://www.metabunker.dk/wp-content/uploads/br_dc_chew.jpg Final Cut version: http://www.metabunker.dk/wp-content/uploads/br_fc_chew.jpg See [1] and [2] for more. [1] http://www.metabunker.dk/?p=1220 [2] ht…

Those are the same picture

> Those are the same picture

Not the same picture. Same frame, but different colours.

If you can’t see the defence, you may want to recalibrate your display.

Re: ‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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Post by jahnu »

WalterBright wrote: post #336
jahnu wrote: post #314

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And of course Alien got a few things from Dark Star https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Star_(film) https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/looking-back-at-john-carpen...

Dolittle: What is your purpose? Bomb: To explode, of course! Great dialog trumps expensive special effects every time.

Totally! And one of the few English language films I’ve seen that retains the humour perfectly dubbed in German. In fact the bomb is possibly even funnier in German :)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XetTVNtzTW8

Re: ‘Blade Runner’ at 40

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Post by formerly_proven »

munch117 wrote: post #312
scott_s wrote: post #253

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In the sequel, Deckard is human. I feel it reinforces your take on the first.

I'm glad to hear it. I may watch the sequel now. Maybe the rumors I heard was an intentional mislead.

Might be a case of Deus Ex Syndrome, where a hardcore fanbase preemptively smears all sequels because they're not the original.
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