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Re: Social justice for the bald man

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Up next: Social Justice for the Short Man, for those with a 'country' accent, for the glasses wearers (in the off-seasons for nerdiness), the straight-up unattractive. They are all real, the question we must contend with is: Are all externally imposed, negatively perceived features, protected from measurement/discrimination? What about age? Can you discriminate towards youthfulness if you will, in your time, become o…

Why is it that in every post about a problem there's this what-about-ism? We can talk about the issue at hand and then the other ones separately.

Re: Social justice for the bald man

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What is this website? What are "accountable posts", slashes, and tokens? EDIT: There is something called Celody, and now I'm listening to music in the hopes of getting tokens. I assume that I'll be able to upvote and downvote articles on the website using these tokens. I have no idea how long I have to listen, or why.

I think this comment deserves a better reception, it's easy to (over) react to phrases like 'what is this website' that are too common - but in this case there does seem to be something quite unusual, I think it was meant in ernest.

Even if not, I think it can be explained in ernest, for those others who are confused by the metadata surrounding the post itself:

> This post has reached its slash date. No more votes.

> Staked: 922 tokens

> Slash Result: NO SLASH

> Stakedy is a product from digital people within Celody. Celody is a digital world powered by music.

(Celody is a hyperlink, if you follow it it's just far more confusing; not enlightening.)

Re: Social justice for the bald man

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post #11

Up next: Social Justice for the Short Man, for those with a 'country' accent, for the glasses wearers (in the off-seasons for nerdiness), the straight-up unattractive. They are all real, the question we must contend with is: Are all externally imposed, negatively perceived features, protected from measurement/discrimination? What about age? Can you discriminate towards youthfulness if you will, in your time, become o…

Why is it that in every post about a problem there's this what-about-ism? We can talk about the issue at hand and then the other ones separately.

At some point 'what-about-ism' must become a good faith comparison.

Re: Social justice for the bald man

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This was going to be part of a bad stand up comedy routine I am never going to do. Bald is the last label and category that hasn't had its time to shine. Even actors who have hair take media roles that bald men traditionally have. Like Patrick Stewart being replaced by a dude that has to shave his head to be Professor X. And there is a ton of subtle bald hate in society even to the point of influencing career advance…

> hasn't had its time to shine

I see what you did there

Re: Social justice for the bald man

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Up next: Social Justice for the Short Man, for those with a 'country' accent, for the glasses wearers (in the off-seasons for nerdiness), the straight-up unattractive. They are all real, the question we must contend with is: Are all externally imposed, negatively perceived features, protected from measurement/discrimination? What about age? Can you discriminate towards youthfulness if you will, in your time, become o…

Then we have social justice for fat people, dumb people, lazy people, people with anger problems, people with personality disorders, criminals, and so on. Where do we draw the line?

I argue we don't draw the line at all. Rather, we treat everyone with compassion and respect, and find / judge everyone on their true strengths and weaknesses (vs. those characteristic of whatever group they belong to).

Discrimination is OK when the discriminating trait actually matters - i.e. you wouldn't let an idiot or a hot-headed person control a nuclear warhead or perform brain surgery. Similarly, I have nothing against diversity, but I think portraying people of many ethnicities in a movie whose setting would not have people of all ethnicities is weird and something our current culture gets wrong. But you should not be rude to an idiot or angry person, just like you shouldn't avoid putting ethnic people in general movies (and make sure you actually know your setting, e.g. I recall controversy where black people were in a movie on ancient Greece, but black people actually did exist in Greece at the time).

(Also I still think people who commit crimes and are dangerous should be locked up. The point is they are locked up to protect and deter others and possibly reform them, not just for intrinsic punishment.)

The issue with the current attitude on social justice is that most people don't fall for prejudice or stereotypes, but don't understand why. You don't just avoid stereotypes because they're often wrong (though a lot truly don't line up with statistics), you avoid them because you don't judge people on their surface, people aren't always what they look like, and most people fail at least one stereotype of a group they belong to if not many more. You don't treat someone with respect because they're black or female, you treat them with respect because they're a decent human. Similarly, you don't mistreat someone whose short or fat or even has something wrong with their head which makes them occasionally annoying. But lots of "social justice advocates" don't realize this and hate towards sides which aren't explicitly "protected".

EDIT: There's also the practical situation where you can't save everyone. In that case unfortunately I think whatever disadvantaged or stereotyped groups aren't protected by the current society are out of luck. But while you can't always give everyone tangible aid or a thorough evaluation, you can at least treat everyone with respect and common decency.

Re: Social justice for the bald man

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This was going to be part of a bad stand up comedy routine I am never going to do. Bald is the last label and category that hasn't had its time to shine. Even actors who have hair take media roles that bald men traditionally have. Like Patrick Stewart being replaced by a dude that has to shave his head to be Professor X. And there is a ton of subtle bald hate in society even to the point of influencing career advance…

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