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Introducing the Gmail app for iPhone, iPad and iPod touch

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Re: Introducing the Gmail app for iPhone, iPad and iPod touch

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Shows exactly how far apart the distance between native apps and web apps really is. People were impressed with the GMail web app when it launched; this is basically a skin around that same app and they're recoiling from it in horror.

What are you saying? web apps are better or native apps?

Re: Introducing the Gmail app for iPhone, iPad and iPod touch

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Aside of the fact that the app displayed an error message at first launch ("Notification error" - "no valid 'aps-environment' entitlement string found for application" - how did this pass review?), it a) doesn't support multiple accounts, b) is very laggy to use when you compare this to, say, the android version and c) feels like another one of these "let's embed the website above a little native toolbar"-apps Becaus…

Have you used the Google Voice app for the iPhone? It's literally the worst app I've ever seen in my life. Crashed constantly, won't refresh from the server, will close your text box randomly while typing a message (clearing your message), will fail to make calls frequently, and since I upgraded to iOS5 now has signed me out and crashes immediately when trying to sign back in so it's been rendered completely unusable.

I can only assume that there's some desire within Google to make sure the iPhone versions of their products are complete dogshit to try and encourage Android adoption.

Re: Introducing the Gmail app for iPhone, iPad and iPod touch

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Aside of the fact that the app displayed an error message at first launch ("Notification error" - "no valid 'aps-environment' entitlement string found for application" - how did this pass review?), it a) doesn't support multiple accounts, b) is very laggy to use when you compare this to, say, the android version and c) feels like another one of these "let's embed the website above a little native toolbar"-apps Becaus…

Have you used the Google Voice app for the iPhone? It's literally the worst app I've ever seen in my life. Crashed constantly, won't refresh from the server, will close your text box randomly while typing a message (clearing your message), will fail to make calls frequently, and since I upgraded to iOS5 now has signed me out and crashes immediately when trying to sign back in so it's been rendered completely unusable…

Did you update the Google Voice app? These all used to be problems, but their latest release resolved them all for me.

Re: Introducing the Gmail app for iPhone, iPad and iPod touch

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Have you used the Google Voice app for the iPhone? It's literally the worst app I've ever seen in my life. Crashed constantly, won't refresh from the server, will close your text box randomly while typing a message (clearing your message), will fail to make calls frequently, and since I upgraded to iOS5 now has signed me out and crashes immediately when trying to sign back in so it's been rendered completely unusable…

Did you update the Google Voice app? These all used to be problems, but their latest release resolved them all for me.

No, I switched to one of the paid apps (GV Mobile+) because it actually worked.

EDIT: I don't really know why I'm being downvoted for this. Wouldn't you switch apps too if you relied on google voice for your text messages and you couldn't log into it anymore without it instantly crashing?

Re: Introducing the Gmail app for iPhone, iPad and iPod touch

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post #5

Aside of the fact that the app displayed an error message at first launch ("Notification error" - "no valid 'aps-environment' entitlement string found for application" - how did this pass review?), it a) doesn't support multiple accounts, b) is very laggy to use when you compare this to, say, the android version and c) feels like another one of these "let's embed the website above a little native toolbar"-apps Becaus…

> Because Safari gets to JIT-compile JavaScript and UIWebView embedded into apps can't I'm not sure this is still the case in iOS5.

> I'm not sure this is still the case in iOS5.

It still is. The JIT was enabled for "pinned" web applications (added to the home screen), but for the JIT to be enabled the whole process needs to be allowed to execute code from writable memory. There's absolutely no way Apple is going to allow arbitrary applications to do that.

As pilif notes, a workaround would be to have UIWebView's content exist in a separate, JIT-able process.

Re: Introducing the Gmail app for iPhone, iPad and iPod touch

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Shows exactly how far apart the distance between native apps and web apps really is. People were impressed with the GMail web app when it launched; this is basically a skin around that same app and they're recoiling from it in horror.

I guess it's about expectations. As a web app, people might expect a slight delay when tapping. But a native app should be responding instantly to taps (like the rest of iOS does), and this doesn't cut it.

Re: Introducing the Gmail app for iPhone, iPad and iPod touch

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post #32

Shows exactly how far apart the distance between native apps and web apps really is. People were impressed with the GMail web app when it launched; this is basically a skin around that same app and they're recoiling from it in horror.

What are you saying? web apps are better or native apps?

That people accept (bad) things from web applications they will never accept from a native application, I'm guessing.

This would imply native applications generally being better than web applications, since the acceptability threshold is higher.

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