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If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)

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Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)

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Post by krapp »

sam_lowry_ wrote: post #39
krapp wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Is "absence of monetization" a value? If capitalism is a value, then anti-capitalism is also a value. A lot of people believe the presence of capitalism on the web is fundamentally antithetical to what they see as its fundamentally anarchist/anti-establishment ethos. Besides, the cost per month of running a small forum nowadays is less than what many people here spend on a single lunch. Not everyone is running a bus…

>anti-capitalism is also a value Say it with me: communism .

Say it with me: anti-capitalist philosophies besides communism exist.

Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)

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Post by sam_lowry_ »

krapp wrote: post #41
sam_lowry_ wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>anti-capitalism is also a value Say it with me: communism .

Say it with me: anti-capitalist philosophies besides communism exist.

Communism is such an overloaded word that baseline communism as defined by David Graeber is probably a better antonym to capitalism.

Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)

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Post by throwaway14356 »

rtpg wrote: post #26
tjr225 wrote: post #6

I look around at every. single. internet community on the planet and I struggle to find a single one that isn't full of assholes. Including the very space I am on right now. And yet - when I step outside and go talk to people and hang out with my friends they suddenly recede into the shadows. Sure, here and there somebody will be an asshole but for the most part everyone is nice, helpful, and (especially in my friend…

I don’t really understand the link between your post and the article, but I might have a context free theory: In the real world annoying people can only annoy so many people at once. On the internet everyone has to read when an annoying person is posting constantly into the group chat. Annoying people simply can take up more oxygen. Now for the contextful thing: there are loads of communities that aren’t filled with…

violence or the option for it is an important part of communication. You have to behave your self or others will do it for you.

Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)

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Post by savanaly »

gloryless wrote: post #23

Anil dash is one of those tech bros that just says shit to create content and it has no basis in experience or research, just a weak amalgamation of thoughts. This article vaguely describes moderating. Thanks for your wisdom, Anil.

Did he shit in your corn flakes too?

Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)

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Post by anotherevan »

Wild digression: Just reading the title, I thought this was going to be the story about someone who had a huge amount of server traffic for some innocuous image he was hosting. He eventually figured out some Wordpress theme publisher had used a link to it in a theme they wrote and sold. So all these web-sites that were using the theme were loading this image from his server - costing him traffic and money.

So he changed the image to something disgusting along the lines of a goatse image (and this is where my brain went to, "If you website's full of assholes...").

The kicker was the theme writer actually contacted him and asked him to "fix" the image as it was upsetting their customers and effecting their sales. Apparently the theme publisher no longer had access to whoever they originally had write the theme, and lacked sufficient skills to publish an update with a link to a different image themself.

Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)

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Post by bsder »

tjr225 wrote: post #6

I look around at every. single. internet community on the planet and I struggle to find a single one that isn't full of assholes. Including the very space I am on right now. And yet - when I step outside and go talk to people and hang out with my friends they suddenly recede into the shadows. Sure, here and there somebody will be an asshole but for the most part everyone is nice, helpful, and (especially in my friend…

> welcoming. This includes people I disagree with politically.

I disagree on this one vehemently. This is spoken like someone from a privileged position of the majority or in a relatively cosmopolitan area.

Be an atheist or agnostic in the Bible belt. You will find yourself either in conflict or holding your tongue A LOT.

Be a nurse in the Bible belt. You will get attacked by your family for promoting "vax conspiracies".

Normally, I would just hold my tongue in these situations, but I've stopped doing that. I'm quite a bit more outspoken lately and becoming moreso. Why?

Because I have had people breathe sighs of relief when I tell them up front that I am pro-vax and pro-science and pro-medicine and if they don't like it they can shut up. Because I've had multiple people crying with gratefulness because I stood up and forced some asshole yelling at them to back down. Whole swathes of US society are taking advantage of the fact that decent people normally avoid conflict.

That is unacceptable. And it stops with me. I refuse to allow this to continue quietly.

I won't seek conflict, but if you want to avoid conflict it's time for YOU to hold your own damn tongue, thanks.

Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)

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Post by u8 »

bsder wrote: post #46
tjr225 wrote: post #6

I look around at every. single. internet community on the planet and I struggle to find a single one that isn't full of assholes. Including the very space I am on right now. And yet - when I step outside and go talk to people and hang out with my friends they suddenly recede into the shadows. Sure, here and there somebody will be an asshole but for the most part everyone is nice, helpful, and (especially in my friend…

> welcoming. This includes people I disagree with politically. I disagree on this one vehemently . This is spoken like someone from a privileged position of the majority or in a relatively cosmopolitan area. Be an atheist or agnostic in the Bible belt. You will find yourself either in conflict or holding your tongue A LOT . Be a nurse in the Bible belt. You will get attacked by your family for promoting "vax conspira…

Please clap

Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)

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Post by Akronymus »

bsder wrote: post #46
tjr225 wrote: post #6

I look around at every. single. internet community on the planet and I struggle to find a single one that isn't full of assholes. Including the very space I am on right now. And yet - when I step outside and go talk to people and hang out with my friends they suddenly recede into the shadows. Sure, here and there somebody will be an asshole but for the most part everyone is nice, helpful, and (especially in my friend…

> welcoming. This includes people I disagree with politically. I disagree on this one vehemently . This is spoken like someone from a privileged position of the majority or in a relatively cosmopolitan area. Be an atheist or agnostic in the Bible belt. You will find yourself either in conflict or holding your tongue A LOT . Be a nurse in the Bible belt. You will get attacked by your family for promoting "vax conspira…

The sam,e thing goes the other way as well, though.

Like being pro gun in most democrat strongholds.

Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)

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Post by [deleted] »

6510 wrote: post #36
tjr225 wrote: post #6

I look around at every. single. internet community on the planet and I struggle to find a single one that isn't full of assholes. Including the very space I am on right now. And yet - when I step outside and go talk to people and hang out with my friends they suddenly recede into the shadows. Sure, here and there somebody will be an asshole but for the most part everyone is nice, helpful, and (especially in my friend…

It's more easy than the article makes it out to be: You delete everything you don't instantly agree with. Don't get emotional about it, just sit there like a robot and delete everything. It's okay to be amused when people enrage to levels they themselves didn't think possible when you delete their comments then delete what she wrote again. No need to ban anyone. Each comment should be valuable to read and provide fur…

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Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)

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Post by sam_lowry_ »

6510 wrote: post #36
tjr225 wrote: post #6

I look around at every. single. internet community on the planet and I struggle to find a single one that isn't full of assholes. Including the very space I am on right now. And yet - when I step outside and go talk to people and hang out with my friends they suddenly recede into the shadows. Sure, here and there somebody will be an asshole but for the most part everyone is nice, helpful, and (especially in my friend…

It's more easy than the article makes it out to be: You delete everything you don't instantly agree with. Don't get emotional about it, just sit there like a robot and delete everything. It's okay to be amused when people enrage to levels they themselves didn't think possible when you delete their comments then delete what she wrote again. No need to ban anyone. Each comment should be valuable to read and provide fur…

I settled on deleting only prose written in uppercase and/or grammatically unparseable.

One of the best moves I ever made was to get rid of title/body distinction in posts. Nobody gets titles right, anyway.

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